Russia issues furious warning after Ukraine aid bill.

O god whats a ukie no one understands your kidspeak!!!!!!

See how silly that sounds?

 

A Bradley would be "advanced" for them.

They're using T55s from the early 50s that have been sitting out in the weather elements for 25 yrs or more.

It wouldn't surprise me if T34s were dragged from museums.

 

O yeah I know its advanced for them, but we were designing and building them prior to the ****ing moon landings ffs.
That's the joke.

 

Dictatorship built into the Constitution only supports my claim.

 

I meant boots on the ground.

 

How Putin's 'reckless' military strategy will be thwarted by US-Ukraine aid package | Michael Clarke

 

You did not understand what a ukie was .. ? Do you realize how silly that sounds ?

Now William .. apparently there are some here who do not understand the shorthand term for Ukrainian could be "ukie" - Talk about "kidspeak" perhaps thinking was in the kindergarten room ... .. putting hands over ears crying out "no one understands" .. Sounds silly right

Now to address the topic .. and reality .. this aid package will not turn the tide - Money is not going to get artillery shell production to where it needs to be for years. in the meantime.. Ukraine is out of Ammo .. and the cash . much of which goes to pay salaries and so forth .. will not help the out of ammo situation.
Won't help the no air defense situation .. other than perhaps a couple more Patriot Batteries .. which is F-all and out of ammo soon after installation.

Ukraine will likely get some missiles -- ATACKMS or what ever those things are called .. with longer range enabling some terrorist attacks for as long as the missiles last .. none of this is going to turn the tide of the war such that Ukraine is on the offensive .. the Spring Counter Offensive 2 .. ha ha .. what a funny one that is.

 

Yep, this last bit of 'aid' is but a farce. A likely last grift on US taxpayers....a lot of the monies laundered through the MIC back to politicians...especially those waving the piss yella and blue flags in the House of Representatives.

All the while the masses of US taxpayers remain stupefied as to why things cost so much....why this pesky 'inflation' is still around. Build back better what he said. Must have been talking about building up the bank accounts of corrupt politicians? Possibly zelenskystein was doing a few remodels on this various mansions? Surely not building home ownership here in the USA, land of the dead dream.

 

Yep....almost on cue....since this latest aid package was announced.....the propagandists like Solovyov, Scab-eva, Margaritaville Simpleton-yan have been cackling like chickens in the coop.....now they're calling Mike Johnson a .....TRAITOR!!...won't you know, and seemed to have cooled on MTG!....jeepers just 3 days ago, they were the darlings of the Kremlin?.....hahahaha, ....even the "consortium" here are sounding like nervous Nellie's?

Why's that?....surely a few long range ATACMS and F16s can't be scaring the mighty RuZzki army....can it?.....

 

....I'd imagine they want their money back....

 

sure.... I thought so but didn't want to just assume.
To be frank I don't see any reason for the US to get involved to that extent...other than being an unfortunate bulwark against an expansionist Russia...at this time and under current circumstance I can't see any reason that the US would have to commit combat troops to Ukraine...I mean the only instance... and this is stretching it....the only thing I could possibly imagine would be if there was a clear danger of the Russians attempting to cause a catastrophic nuclear incident at zaporizhia nuclear power plant, and even then I would assume it would only be as part of a coalition of rapid response units/special forces trained for such a situation and then only at the insistence of the UN/IAEA... but that's a mere guess.
For the the US alone to get involved there would first need to be some massive moving parts put into motion and at least 6-9 months before any troops went anywhere. Firstly there would have to be the call up of the various National Guard units like the 28th from Pennsylvania the 34th from Minnesota the 36th from Texas and then the 1st Armoured and the 7th Cavalry would need to move from their US bases to Europe....this would be a massive undertaking and as said would take months for the NG units to get trained up and prepared. So until you see this happening then all is well....

This narrative of the US being drawn into and fighting a major land war in Europe is one of the scare tactics that Russian influencers have been using on Americans. It's rubbish....it won't happen.

 

hat tip to this guy...one of the best commentators on this conflict...

 

Failure to control the border does undermine national security.
Betraying an ally by ignoring our obligations under the Trilateral Process and Budapest Memorandum of Security Assurances also undermines the national security of the US.

“When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine had the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal on its territory. When Ukrainian-Russian negotiations on removing these weapons from Ukraine appeared to break down in September 1993, the U.S. government engaged in a trilateral process with Ukraine and Russia. The result was the Trilateral Statement, signed in January 1994, under which Ukraine agreed to transfer the nuclear warheads to Russia for elimination. In return, Ukraine received security assurances from the United States, Russia and Britain; compensation for the economic value of the highly-enriched uranium in the warheads (which could be blended down and converted into fuel for nuclear reactors); and assistance from the United States in dismantling the missiles, missile silos, bombers and nuclear infrastructure on its territory.”
BROOKINGS, The Trilateral Process: The United States, Ukraine, Russia and Nuclear Weapons, By, Steven Pifer, May 9, 2011.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/...ed-states-ukraine-russia-and-nuclear-weapons/

 

You're clearly projecting again.

Your side would do that. After all, your side has always have done that. Thus, you assume the anti-fascism side must act in the same way your side acts.

That is not the case. We are not like you.

Go on. Show us this money laundering. If you're not making it all up, pushing tall tales for the GloryOfFascism, it should be no problem for you. But if you did make it all up, you'll just give us excuses now.

 

Thanks for today's dose of hypocrisy. Maybe you missed the fact that the ukrainians have been bombing the zaporizhia nuclear power plant? The IAEA said "no bueno!"

So now that you know of this atrocity, I would assume you would insist US/NATO troops enter ukraine to combat the ukrainian's acts of terrorism? Much like how the US allied with Russia to fight the original nazis.

What say you?

 

You should read this much cited memorandum. The US has violated its promises multiple times....as well as agreements that followed such as the NATO - Russia Founding Act and the Minsk Accords.

When you remove the duly-elected President of the country you promised to protect, you've pretty much wiped your ass with any so-called security agreement.

 

Provide the links where the UAF has been bombing the ZPP.....whereas the RuMafia has mined the plants with explosives?

What say you ..."Bill"?

 

Do you not have sarcasm in Russia?

As to the aid package: We sent plenty of Bradleys which you orcs consider to be, in your own words, "advanced technology". Which is simply sad.
We can and will continue providing munitions. Keep telling yourself it'll be a little 3 day operation ok champ?

 

Its not a dictatorship. They simply intentionally do not change leaders in the midst of an existential crisis, as part of the originally agreed upon foundation of their form of government.
Electing someone means if you get invaded by Russia, they're in control for the duration. That's something people choose when they cast their vote there.

 

that's just a lot of words for dictatorship.

you'd have a plan if the Ukraine wasn't an oligarchy. If it was a constitutional Republican they decided hey we're going to postpone the election that would be one thing but that's not what it is.

 

No, that's a lot of words to describe a constitutional republic making a choice in its founding laws to not switch leaders while being invaded.

Its literally in their constitution, they have a legislative, executive, and judicial branch all bound by the self same constitution which they founded their current form of government with.
That's LITERALLY a constitutional republic.

 

"UAF will likely get some missiles...ATACMs, or whatever those things are called"..........sounds like soiled trousers!...LOL.....judging by that asinine comment, I'll hazard a guess you ain't from the US, North America, or even anywhere from the Western Hemisphere...gifter.

The RuMafia milbloggers and tee-roll consortium are in overdrive cackling like chickens when there's a fox around.

 

I'm not going to argue with you about it especially if your ideologically possessed I don't care to waste my breath doing that.

You didn't change my mind stating platitudes and you're not ever going to doing that.

 

Ideologically possessed? You complained it wasn't a constitutional republic when it LITERALLY is one.
If anyone is an ideologue here it seems to be yourself.

Platitudes? I stated an actual definition of a Constitutional Republic: Has a constitution, a legislature, and an executive and judiciary.
You took issue with that... for some silly reason.

 

Zoomer ! .. where you been .. I heard those French Troops you were talking about finally showed up to save the day ! French Foreign Legion ! how exciting is that but, let us not get too excited just yet Zoomie .. Turns out they only sent 100 of them .. and will be stationed away from the fighting in Kiev and Odesa.

So unfortunately -- no French Knight in shining armor coming to emotional rescue just yet .. "Asinine comment" -- what's that about Zoomer .. .thinking the French would save the day was not that asinine .. so no need to apologize .. OK .. maybe a little .. but no worries.

Sad to hear about the ATACMs - as these will be used for Terrorist attack ... which -- as we all know - reaps 10 times the payback on Ukraine .. such that it is Ukraine that suffers from these Terrorist attacks. .. and prolonging the war only serves to produce more boxes of Ukrainian Sausage for Xmas.

Now why do you want to know where I am from Zoomer .. did you which my address and phone number to go on a date as well ? I told you my approx location .. did you forget .. ? Close to Flapperland friend .. and silliness is this to think that Russian spies do not live in the US ? what is that word you used ? "Asinine" --- does that not fit the bill ?