Shortage of eligible men as women struggle in dating game

I made up nothing. You're just denying fact.

Creationists do not make things up they just believe in an old book the authors of which made things up

 

Coming from someone whose whole belief system is based on things people have made up

...and talk about not acknowledging it

Watch she won't even dispute the fact that feminism is a supremacist hate movement that's not only not supported by proof, it's discredited by proof

Watch...

 

The other most common suicide victims are divorced and/or estranged fathers like Derrick Miller. In fact, a divorced father is ten times more likely to commit suicide than a divorced mother, and three times more likely to commit suicide than a married father. According to Los Angeles divorce consultant Jayne Major:

"Divorced men are often devastated by the loss of their children. It's a little known fact that in the United States men initiate only a small number of the divorces involving children. Most of the men I deal with never saw their divorces coming, and they are often treated very unfairly by the family courts."




A distraught father struggling with overdue child support obligations and adverse family court decisions committed suicide on the steps of the downtown San Diego courthouse Monday. Angrily waving court documents, 43 year-old Derrick Miller walked up to court personnel at the entrance, said "You did this to me," and shot himself in the head.



Who is committing suicide?

For the most part, men. According to the National Institute of Mental Health, males commit suicide four times as often as females do, and have higher suicide rates in every age group. There are many risk factors for suicide, including substance abuse and mental illness, but the two situations in which men are most likely to kill themselves are after the loss of a job, and after a divorce.

Source: Distraught Father's Courthouse Suicide Highlights America's Male Suicide Epidemic

 

Lack of eligible quality men...lack of eligible quality woman... sign of the times. We did it to ourselves.

 

Ok then someone made up for you the "facts" I thought you'd made up?

Second hand falsehoods merely lack originality.

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For sure it goes both ways.

 

Spitting out misandric statements won't make guys any better. Let's hope they grow up and become worthy then...

 

So now you are making it up that I "spit out misandric statements". Perhaps you could add yourself to the list of people who need to grow the heck up.

I'd be fine getting along with you, but you go on ig if you are going to keep this up, its stupid.
Talk to me like a person, not some caricature you have in your mind.

ok? please?

 

Ok... you said there are immature men in this world, too many for women to marry them. Should we talk about immature women? Girls cheating with other boys? Two of my friends were cheated by their girlfriends multiple times, they didn't take it very well... those were really two immature girls, unworthy of them.

Should we talk about gold diggers? Prostitutes? Empress Theodora, who cheated with her son while sending her husband to his death?

 

Thanks for backing off.

No need to discuss whether there are women of low degree.

Of course there are, and honestly, unless you get into really serious stuff like torture and murder, but just you know, awful hurtful crazy behaviour, I think women win.

Not a coveted prize! I just think thatm in my experience, I've seen more mean evil destructive crazy women than I have men.

You can argue against that, if you like!

 

In my experience, i see immature men and immature women, let's say equal. It would be unfair to blame only one of the two sides, both men and women should work together to plain every inequality. The problem with feminists is that they do not want to work together with men, but rather they demonize them, thus gaining impopularity among men, as you see in this forum... pratically, they are no better than nazis when they blamed judes for everything evil in the world.

 

Im a feminist. So are you saying these things of me, or of some minority / caricature?

I could as well say that Christians are no better than nazis, because of their hatred for people of other faiths.

It would be more true, there'd be more Christians of whom that is true than there are feminists who fit your chosen stereotype.

I dont get this deal here, with guys putting up thread after thread to say awful things about women they dont know.

I notice I come for some of it, with people assuming / fabricating things about me so they can say how bad i am. Seriously, what is with all of this?

 

I notice this thread is in the women's rights section. Is reeling in a man so she can divorce him and leave him destitute and suicidal a woman's right now?

 

Unfortunately, it is a right. There is no law against it. Life is full of caveat empetor.
Men do it to women. Business partners do it to eachother.
its profoundly imooral.

What do you think is to be done, to eliminate immorality?

 

Actually fanatical christians were exactly like nazi, really no different. Radical feminists also are nazis, maybe only a little less violent and sadistic. Moderate feminists, of whom you belong i suppose, surely are better people, it was not my intention to judge all feminists as they were all the same thing, but of course only the radical part.

I'm sure there are intelligent women among feminists, let's hope they get a hold on the movement instead of radical nuts... that would be beneficial to men and to women, trust me.

 

Below are quotes by feminists one of which is a supreme court justice, another who’s the editor of Ms. Magazine, a former congress women, an advisoress to Al Gores presidential campaign, Authors, and a feminist dictionary.


"All men are rapists and that's all they are"
— Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign.)

"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it."
— Barbara Jordan; Former Congresswoman

"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination."
— Andrea Dworkin, "Pornography: Men Possessing Women"

"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women...he can sexually molest his daughters... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."
— Marilyn French

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them."
— Robin Morgan, "Ms. Magazine" Editor

"Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman."
— Andrea Dworkin

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman."
— Catherine MacKinnon

"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference."
— Susan Griffin, "Rape: The All-American Crime"

In a speech in Banff, Canada, Andrea Dworkin exhorted her audience to "stop men who beat women", "Get them jailed or get them killed. ... When the law fails us, we cannot fail each other."

"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact."
— Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood

"Women have their faults. Men have only two: everything they say, and everything they do."
— graffiti frequently found on university campuses with active feminist movements



From 'A feminist Dictionary', edited by Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.

MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man...

TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning."

Sonia Sotomayor: Supreme Court Justice
"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

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Below are quotes by feminists one of which is a supreme court justice, another who’s the editor of Ms. Magazine, a former congress women, an advisoress to Al Gores presidential campaign, Authors, and a feminist dictionary.


"All men are rapists and that's all they are"
— Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign.)

"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it."
— Barbara Jordan; Former Congresswoman

"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination."
— Andrea Dworkin, "Pornography: Men Possessing Women"

"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women...he can sexually molest his daughters... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE."
— Marilyn French

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them."
— Robin Morgan, "Ms. Magazine" Editor

"Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman."
— Andrea Dworkin

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman."
— Catherine MacKinnon

"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference."
— Susan Griffin, "Rape: The All-American Crime"

In a speech in Banff, Canada, Andrea Dworkin exhorted her audience to "stop men who beat women", "Get them jailed or get them killed. ... When the law fails us, we cannot fail each other."

"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact."
— Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood

"Women have their faults. Men have only two: everything they say, and everything they do."
— graffiti frequently found on university campuses with active feminist movements



From 'A feminist Dictionary', edited by Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985:

MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female.

MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man...

TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning."

Sonia Sotomayor: Supreme Court Justice
"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

 

Well i'm not surprised radical feminists are responsible for some of the biggest loads ever. It's thank to women like that, that many men came to distrust feminists. Those women are dangerous people and should not be allowed to speech in public or write books...

 

oh now dont go talking against the first amendment.

 

Well if i said all women are sluts and are by nature inferior beings wouldn't i be violating something important eh? I mean, denying the dignity of all males, like the ladies above, is pretty harsh you know? Anyway i don't care, people like that are not taken seriously by normal people. They are however like a virus and can infect some vulnerable minds to believe their loads. Because you know that's a load do you?

 

As a new American I am opposed to changing or violating the constitution.
Aren't you?

 

There seems to be a prevalence of knee-jerk cynicism and an addiction to the negative. From politics to the "dating game," the pervasive attitude is a deep seated cynicism...a predictor of the inevitable let down...the self fulfilling prophesy.

Why bother, appears the mantra of the age.
Why bother to get an education, why bother to be in a committed relationship, why bother to better one self...in whatever form that may take.

I believe there is no higher calling than to raise a family under the umbrella of a committed marriage...that is why we're here. We're here to further the species, to give our off-spring the best chance at a well adjusted life who will in turn also raise a family under the umbrella of a committed marriage. To even talk about this marks one a dinosaur of a bygone era...an apparition of what once was but is no longer.

I am single...and I can tell you as a confirmed bachelor...it is ultimately a hollow life. I'm ahead of the curve at 49. If the trend for 20 something young men is to avoid marriage, thinking the bachelor life is the be all and end all...I can tell you...it is not as it appears. While I have chosen this life because of the freedoms it affords...and yes there are of course plusses. Yet in the final analysis, after reflecting upon it...it ultimately rings hollow. Maybe marriage and family results in the same..then indeed it can be said, life is more a curse than a blessing, and the cynics were right all along afterall. My hope is, the cynics are wrong.

 

Well said. My mom told me that if I live for myself, I live for nothing.

I believe there is no higher calling than to raise a family under the umbrella of a committed marriage...that is why we're here. We're here to further the species, to give our off-spring the best chance at a well adjusted life who will in turn also raise a family under the umbrella of a committed marriage

yes!

 

Not to get way off topic...as the topic is a shortage of eligible men.

My commitment now, is to mentor youth...in whatever way that may be...coaching, Big Brother...to be a positive male role model. The sad thing of it is, in this era of "stranger danger." My motives are suspect. Why does a single grown man, want be around kids...surely there's a sinister motive. No one is altruistic, that's crazy.

I don't care about racking up notches on a bed post...chasing women half my age...watching sports all weekend, surfing for pornography, beating a difficult level on a video game. I want to introduce a child to flying, or the outdoors, things I know..I want to impart to them. I agree with your mother, a life lived for one self is living for nothing.

My advice to young men, is that you will never satiate your sexual desires, you will never satiate personal desires..you will wake up and stare at a 50 year old in the mirror, and wonder where did the time go. What you have now is time, value it...and live outside of yourself once in a while.

Again though, as the topic is, where are the eligible men...I'm off topic...so carry on. I'll bow out of the conversation.

 

Seems to me its very much on topic to say that people take themselves out of the running, and how that works out.

Here is something on looking for something that's right in front of you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63rhRdxeihI

and if you look up Kafka / bachelor, he says very much as you did about looking in the mirror. Its just a paragraph but very powerfully written.

 

You should tell that bit about only living for yourself to feminists

 

utter tosh - because women should not be so choosy