Should Blacks Be Given Their Own Country Inside the US?

You are seriously out of touch. You seem to think it's still 2010.

 

ahoy there, I'm a liberal!

but I do agree that PROGRESSIVES (who call themselves liberal) should most definitely try life amongst those they pretend to defend. And I don't mean middle class white LGBT people, I mean all those other minorities. I specifically recommend they live in an impoverished indigenous encampment for 6 months, then spend 6 months under Sh'aria law in a Muslim nation. After that beneficial time spent amongst their heroes, they can live for a year on welfare in a trailer in a place inhabited solely by uneducated rednecks (aka, the enemy. there's nothing an elitist white progressive hates more than an uneducated poor white person).

of course, we all know that the only 'minority' they'd ever contemplate living amongst is the middle class white LGBTs who are EXACTLY the same as them in every way, shape, and form. yet they call us racists and bigots. good comedy.

 

Actually, I had no expectations when I signed up for this forum this week.

Imagine my surprise when I found out it was pretty much a forum for white supremacists, who clearly represent a substantial majority of the people who post.

Indeed my interaction with white supremacists in my lifetime has at least tripled in the last week. And I have been on many forums over the years.

 

Well, while there are the Nazis and all.
It's fun to debunk their BS.I relish owning them,and I do.
SJWs do not rule this forum,though.People who can make an assertion and back it up with credible evidence do.

 

Historical abuse?

Modern day abuse. Blacks have been fleeing Texas to varying degrees since the end of the civil war. It is still 12 percent of the population. So why are you afraid of them getting elected? None have been elected to a significant statewide office in this or the last century.

So why are you white Texans so keen on implementing another Jim Crow voter suppression law?

Blacks have never been even close to proportionately represented in Texas. The most ambitious blacks, who were able, left your pathetic state. They are doing just fine.

When you stop oppressing them, then you don't have to be responsible for their safety, which your States has failed miserably at doing.

 

I have no idea who you're talking to. I don't even live in America, much less Texas. And I ain't white (well, not strictly )

Maybe you were just dodging?

 

You'll be happy to know that I'm a non-white, atheist, liberal, leftist, progressive then. And I can empathise with both points of view, though I'm increasingly losing patience with my left brethren who think progress is about feelings and men wearing dresses.

 

Isn't it some thing that Liberal Jews left the Bronx in bigger numbers than Conservative Italians?

 

So who's in the Bronx now?

 

The Bronx is now equally Jewish, as Italian both at 3.9%, but in the 1940's about 50% of the Bronx was Jewish, Jews were the dominant group in the Bronx more so than Italians.

This proves that Jews who are very Liberal leaning abandoned the Bronx at higher amounts than Italians who are slightly Conservative leaning.

 

Imagine that,Catholic Paisanos being conservative.

 

I wouldn't want to move anywhere in a city no matter who lived there or what neighborhood it was as that's just way too many people trying to live on top of one another, so as long as it was country living I don't think there being black people there would be an issue.

 

You are somewhat paranoid if that is your opinion of people here, as well is highly even wildly innacurate, many here are of various races, and diverse ethnicities.

Some here are white, however, I have not seen any so called "White Supremeiscistsississisisists here.

And Crank hates a Gun, so if you have Guns, you are a "Gun Lover", that is classic bias and also innacurate.

 

You obviously have never been to the Bronx, I have.

 

Then you are more Conservative than you would care to admit, soon, you will likely own Guns too !

 

I've been to the Bronx, but I'm going by statistics.

 

Statistics are innacurate, my father gew up in the Bronx, I have been to the Bronx often to visit people, the Bronx is quite large, and Ethnicity and Races vary according to what part of the Bronx.

 

Good to know. I mixed you up with someone who is from Texas. Lo siento.

As for the dresses thing. I completely agree. I am all for calling people what they want to be called, but that doesn't mean it is like a safe zone that magically makes calling out bullcrap off limits.

Bruce Jenner is a pathetic, self-centered fraud. And so is Caitlyn.

 

Sorry, I am not the least bit paranoid. If this week is typical, a huge percentage of the most popular threads have subjects that would virtually never come up if there weren't white supremacists around to argue that position. Read the title of this thread. If that was listed as a debate topic at any decent university, they would think it was someone pulling a stupid prank. The very premise is insane.

White Americans don't own this country. So they have nothing to “give” black Americans. And the fact that one hundred people didn't pounce all over that ludicrous premise right away is testament to the paucity of non white supremacists posters.

 

Short answer is no.

 

I don't consider myself to be a "white supremacist" because I do not accept the general premise of a white being superior.

Fact is, if it is in college, I could easier defend Asians.
We whites in America have outperformed the rest of the world in economics. When they switch to our system, their lives improve. So why not defend whites on the economics score.

If you wish to defend blacks, what is their economic system, where is it used, and how well has it performed?

Politics wise, again, what is their politics, where is it used and how well has black politics functioned? A poster tried to use Guinea to make his point but that fails.

Germans are white as are the British and factually so is Europe. I see nothing to be ashamed of being white.

 

You are aware that slaves and segregated oppressed groups aren't free to live lives of self determination, right?

So what the heck are you talking about.

The white part of the American economic system is abhorrent, since it has been consistently based on oppression and exploitation of blacks and minorities. Nobody is emulating that intentionally.

Most African Americans have American anscestors that trace much farther back than Alexander Hamilton’s American anscetry. So what the heck does Guinea have to do with anything?

Most African Americans couldn't point within 1000 miles of Guinea on a map. They are American. So there economic system, if anything, is American.

After lifting the majority of the oppressive laws, how long did it take for some African Americans to become some of the richest people in the world?

How much is Oprah worth, for example?

What is her economic system?

 

The English did it before that with Freetown, the capital of Sierra Leone.

And what do you mean that "The first thing the freed American slaves did was to enslave the local population"? I did not know this and I cannot find any evidence that the African American "enslaved" the local population. My Australian Government uses so-called 'forced labour' because it makes the long term unemployed 'work for the dole'. Is the Australian Government guilty of 'slavery'? Hasnt an elite established itself and forced Australians to have to work? The Australian Government tells Aboriginals they have to work - is this 'forced labour'? Before The British came no Aboriginal was forced to work and they spent most of their day having fun or relaxing - but now they must work a 40 hour week or the government says they are lazy. The Government has taken all the land and there is no good place for Aboriginals to hunt for food. Hasnt the Australian Government done pretty much exactly what the African-American elite of Liberia did to the local population?

And -

http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/ForcedLabourScandal.htm

.... Were the Americans drafted for the Vietnam war slaves were they? Recruiting carried compulsion with it right?

And thisLeague of nations report is from 1927-1930. Yet you claim that "The first thing the freed American slaves did was to enslave the local population". Have you been watching racist docos on youtube or something?

http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/ForcedLabourScandal.htm

Post a link that proves that proves "The first thing the freed American slaves did was to enslave the local population".

edit - And "we" tried it did you? Who is "we"? Who?

 

The NOI want to establish their own black nation within USA. If they want a fight then why not have a war. I would love for Australia to have a war with unhappy Aboriginals. My guess is that the majority of Aboriginals would fight for Australia under the Australian Flag. Give the cranky Aboriginals a country within the country and then declare war on them and kill every last one of them. That will solve that.

But I like the idea of a new Western controlled and owned Freetown for refugees. If African Americans wanted to go and live there I think that would be ok. My idea is for the new state to be a private state owned by multinational corporations. The land may be leased or bought. We could put one in the middle of Australia. We have plenty of room here.

Politicians will never solve the refugee crisis. But multinational corporations could solve it. This would be a private state. Refugees that want to become citizens will have to be microchipped in hand and forehead. They will be given protection, basic needs and work. It will not be a refugee camp - it will be a new free private state with its own laws and its own digital currency. Millions of refugees will want to be part of the new private free state. These citizens using the private states digital currency that could be used as a base for a supranational world currency. Everyone will be welcome in the new free private state - including unhappy African-Americans.

The new free private state will be able to compete with the Chinese and any other developing nation on international open trade. It will not be a democracy - but it will be up to refugees if they want to become citizens. A free private state owned by multinational corporations will be a success and millions of refugees will want to be a part of it.

 

From my perspective the issue is not black vs white, but moocher vs producer. The moochers are not blacks, they're not even those on Welfare. The moochers are the political class who have been playing up class warfare for decades to their advantage. Both sides. We (the makers and the takers) are all their victims, though in different ways, and not always knowingly.

There is no solution except to change the opinions of the populace.