Should the elderly be hospitalized if they have corona?

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  1. FoxHastings

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    ...Pro-Life...until it's inconvenient...;)
     
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    Yep! Just get rid of them! Death automatically stops their EARNED Social Security benefits, too! Best of both worlds.

    Besides, a lot of us would be surprised to learn how few old people enjoy being alive on this incredibly fugged-up planet with 7.8 billon others -- many of whom make living today a misery nobody dared seriously even to imagine just thirty short years ago....

    [​IMG]."Cheer up, old timer! This year you can choose between Trump and Biden!" :banana:
     
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    Who said that? I only said the hospital should have discretion as to whom it admits.
     
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    Well, you can 'split hairs' if you like. If you won't treat someone who needs medical care then that is simply another way of getting "rid of them", as I said. And if a person is excluded merely because of being elderly, then that speaks eloquently to the point of getting "rid of them" also.

    It's a GREAT way for the government to help bolster the Social Security system, because even though we are all forced by law to pay into the system all our working lives, all payments to that worker STOP when the person dies -- nothing can be 'willed' to the children, grandchildren, or anybody else....

    [​IMG]."Hey, could you move it along here?!" :oldman: -- "But, I'm dyin' as fast as I can!"
     
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    Of course. They can resign their position at any time.

    The concept of founding a country that wants the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It applies to everyone from newborn babies to 87 year old smokers. The American way doesn't allow you to put yourself above others. We were founded on the concept of equality and equality has no room for euthanasia.
     
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    You limited that discretion to older people.
     
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    Thank you. Jews, Christians, and Muslims view Human Life as G-d's Creation. All Humans are important.
     
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    Sadly, millionaires and even billionaires pay far less taxes then they could. As a result tens of thousands of lives are lost each year.
     
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    Pro-Life.

    ;)
     
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    Politics deals with Society's problems. The Society is composed of Individuals.

    It is impossible to study a forest, but not trees.
     
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    Funny how the Wrong crucified Obama for suggesting something similar!
    My how the Tramp worms have turned!!!
     
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    I'll bet you were one of the hypocrites who crucified Obama for the same suggestion.
     
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    ...Pro-Life...until it's inconvenient...;)
     
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    I would LOVE for Trump to go on live TV, and urge elderly people with Covid to not go to hospitals and just die.

    even better if he urged hospitals to not treat them
     
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    Is that supposed to be clever? Comparing the intentional killing of a healthy baby with merely denying hospitalization, in a pandemic, to an 80 year old patient with an infectious disease?
     
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    What in the world are you talking about?
     
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    Why? It's not his call. It's the hospitals call, and at their discretion, as necessary to keep the staff safe.

    You keep conflating every policy you disagree with with Trump. The world is complicated.
     
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    But it isn't.
     
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    If choices have to be made, make them. If not, don't worry about it.
     
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    Are they still people?
     
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    Indeed, many Conservatives have monstrous views -- I am not a Conservative. Many Liberals oppose Free Speech and practice Discrimination -- I am not Liberal.

    On the issues of gun control, and Welfare, and Medical Care, Liberals are correct 100%. All Humans are G-d's Creations. Even people who are very old, very disabled, or very Autistic.
     
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    LOL, if you really believed that, and you obviously do not, you wouldn't condemn the idea of selectivity in treatment during a pandemic. You would just pack them all in, 10 to a room if necessary, to avoid looking "heartless."

    I support health care workers
     
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    No. I said quite explicitly in the OP that they are lizards.

    Getting tired of battling strawmen.
     
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    Indeed, the idea of abandoning very old or very disabled or very autistic people is absolutely unethical.
     

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