Should there be a Black-only police force in some towns and cities?

For many years, but especially lately, it has been true that concentrated American Black populations have a significantly different understanding of which laws should be obeyed, and how municipal police forces should enforce those laws.

So -- should towns, cities, and suburban communities with large majorities of Blacks have police departments whose officers are made up, 100%, by Blacks? If so, what kind of "large majority" should be in evidence in a city or town before restricting inclusion of its police officers so that they are on a "Black-only" basis...?

You must vote to see results, on a single-choice basis, but you may change your vote. The poll will be open 30 days.

 

If the past year has taught us as Americans anything, it has reinforced the belief of many that there are fundamental, undeniable differences in the way that Blacks and non-Blacks view 'the Law', and how it should be enforced by various police departments throughout the country.

Someday we may achieve a true 'color-blind' ability for all of us to live by one set of laws, and have a diverse, color-blind police force to enforce compliance with those laws -- but, unfortunately -- that time is NOT now... and maybe it never has been.

What we should try now is letting 'Black communities' (those with very large Black majorities) have police departments that are made up ONE HUNDRED PERCENT by Black police officers, Black police department administrators, Black EVERYBODY -- from the staff that maintains the patrol car fleet all the way up to the police chief.

What we have now, in 2021, really hasn't worked very well for DECADES, if we want to be honest about it. Let's try having ONLY Blacks police themselves in places where they make up a large majority. Your ideas...?

 

The state that BLM opposes to the killing of blacks has no race.

 

Could you expand your thoughts about this, please. I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.

What the 'Black community' seems to be telling us is that in MANY cases, Black suspects, and even those who have warrants out for their arrest should not be taken into custody by the police AT ALL. You see? It's a fundamental difference in the entire 'paradigm' of what police departments are supposed to do, or NOT do....

 

I've always believed that any employment in a city, county or state should reflect the same percentage as the population of that community.

 

BLM is against blacks being killed by the state apparatus force known as police or law enforcement operations.

 

Yes, that is very true! That's why I think that everybody -- Black and non-Black would be greatly more satisfied if Black populations were policed by totally-Black police departments!

Or, are you inferring that there should be NO police departments at all...? That's NOT a good idea!

 

The blacks cops will continue to carry out the functions of a police state which seeks to repress it is not an issue of one race against another, like in the military, death squads are integrated.

 

Agreed.

I also think the question overlooks the fact that law-abiding black people are just as disgusted by black criminals as some whites are.

 

IMO, having a Black Only police force for Black neighborhoods, is pretty much segregation.

What happens if a Black is in a neighborhood that is majority white, and needs to be addressed by the police?
What happens if a White is in a neighborhood that is majority Black, and needs to be addressed by the police?

The list against doing something like this is long, and returning to a segregation basis is beyond wrong, and detrimental on a number of levels.

 

This would apply ONLY to police departments in towns, cities, and precincts where there is a large Black majority population.

It isn't some "perfect" solution, but as at least it is a start... because what we're doing now simply DOESN'T WORK!

Blacks hate White police officers, and often will not obey a lawful instruction if it comes from a White police officer, but they might be more willing to submit to the authority of an officer who is BLACK!

I really think this may be worth considering!

 

I have an idea. Why don't we only have democrats running our biggest cities? Democrats love black people! Issue solved! No more violent crime and no more police brutality!

Oh wait they already do? And those cities are hell holes to live in with horrible education? What a coincidence.

So the mayors, the city councils the school boards and the police superintendents are all democrats and those cities are absolute hell holes to live in anyway?

 

It is an idiotic idea.

 

That's Joe Biden's America. Make our cities racial jungles through segregation.

 

Ok, then, if mine was an "idiotic idea", and if the situation we already have in the country now is also idiotic, then what is YOUR solution?

 

What if a position has an opening and choosing a black candidate would mean blacks are over represented and they have no white candidates should the position be held open until a white person can be recruited?

 

Then why don't they do more to help rid their neighborhoods of those black criminals and support the efforts of the police to do so? Why aren't they marching in the streets against the street thugs engaged in the crime? Why are they in the street protest every death if every child who is a victim to such crime?

 

Come on, get real. Reflecting the percentage of the population is not spelling out the requirement of exact percentage to the fraction.

 

It would be flatly unconstitutional.

"I'd like a job application."

"For what?"

"Police officer."

"You look white."

"I am white."

"You're ineligible to work in that precinct because of your skin color."

"You're kidding."

"No, I'm serious."

 

I see the point from a policy standpoint, but it would violate the federal constitution, Title VII, and the constitution of probably every state.

 

Won't work.

 

My almost black-majority city got called by black leaders on having an overwhelmingly white PD several years back and the PD pushed back pretty hard against the "racism" allegation. They released the numbers and the demographics showing that they had very few black applicants and the overwhelming number of them either couldn't pass the basic math and English tests or were loaded down with criminal records that disqualified them. They went on to make the case that the department as a whole was underfunded and underpaid such that when they did get new officers, especially black officers, they were often lured away pretty quick by other PD's with better salaries and/or ones recruiting experienced blacks to diversify their rosters. They threw it back into the lap of the then black mayor to better fund the department who was then forced to admit that being a minority-majority city meant that the area was too poor to compete with other cities in terms of salaries and recruitment efforts and the whole thing went away with a whimper.

The point of this is to say that it is easier just to proclaim something should be done then it is to do it. The median salary for regular patrol officers in my state is better than $56K. The average salary in my city is in the $39K range.

 

Your poll is not balanced. There are two options for no and one for yes. Your third option also implies a no, to the question asked.

 

Me, I always believed that any employment in a city, county, or state should reflect the merit of the strongest candidates to the positions being advertised, regardless of the applicant's race, ethnic group, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age (if the position is compatible with biological and legal limitations brought about by age) or national origin (if lawfully allowed to work). But that's just me. Oh wait, no, that's the law. Never mind.

 

Why? We're supposed to be colourblind by now.

More importantly, how would you get people to take jobs they don't want? By force of law?