Should Trump go to Prison?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jun 11, 2022.

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Should Trump go to Prison

  1. Yes

    35 vote(s)
    42.7%
  2. No

    47 vote(s)
    57.3%
  1. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    France does indeed have some colourful politicians but none have come close to overturning democracy.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, true. I just think there is so much blood-lust caught up in the issue. I think it's very difficult to be impartial. I guess that's why Biden has backed away and moved on.
     
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    I heard today that Fox News advised it's viewers not to watch the procedings. Worryingly the usual viewing numbers hardly changed, which means most of the viewers indeed didn't watch.
    I found it "interesting" that so many either didn't want to watch the results of à through investigation and come to conclusions based on facts, or obedient to the Voice on the Wall
    so well used in 1984.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    I would word what you said differently, but I agree with the gist of where you're heading. It's become a political witch hunt (although Trump's probably guilty of something as well).
     
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    As much as I can't stand the guy, I think we need to move beyond all this. Our future seems pretty shaky and we're too focused on the past. Will our path forward continue with the splitting of the nation or will we look beyond the pettiness?
     
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    Nope - the pettiness on both sides will just continue to get worse and millions will continue to try to justify it
     
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    You're probably correct. We need some '60s again.

     
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    I agree, just like the pardons for Nixon

    Are you ready to pull the trigger?
    I know we are not allowed to point out how unfair the demons are
     
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    HereWeGoAgain said:
    We should allow a president to commit treason and attempt a coup d'état, and go unpunished?

    This was the most dangerous attack we've ever had on the country.

    People have been executed for treason, for far less.

    Those attacks were by foreign powers and terrorists .....Americans committing treason with an attack on our government are actually more dangerous....terrorists from within with the same goal as Japan and the 9/11 terrorists..
     
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    Bad hair-doo.
     
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    Sigh! I am of that generation - the one that spoke out against a war and even against heavy handed oppression of peaceful protests


    Time and beyond time that we had a generation of rebels but I think we may see that with the “March for our Lives”
     
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    Those were the days when, fundamentally, politicians has à better sense of right and wrong and respecting it.
    Today both the UK and USA are in the hands of those to whom law or right and wrong makes no différence at all.
    For all the incidents like Kent State or the lying propaganda in the news cycle, eventually enough honest people saw sense .
    Today they ignore honesty and as in the UK recently, adjust law at à whim if they need to protect their own.
    Democracy and politics are at à very unstable place.
     
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    Which means that most of the viewers didn't watch pointless nonsense which didn't tell us anything new.
     
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    Should? Yes.

    Will? Probably not. People with lotsa money just don't have to do that most of the time.
     
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    Cool deflection. Too bad it didn't actually happen.
     
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    Lol, really?
     
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    "Off the hook" for what?
     
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    I voted no. Not because I'm a fan of Mr. Trump, because I'm not and never have been. But because literally every example you gave in your OP was BS. Even your signature line about Russian guests is BS.

    1. Trump never "called for Russians to get Hillary's emails". But that has been the way the propaganda machine has spun what he said to their followers.
    2. Trump never killed anyone. His 'pushing of crackpot cures' was him as a layman suggesting stupid things, which were all quickly smacked down by qualified people in the media, and on his staff.
    3. Trump's stupidity contributed to inciting the riot on Jan 6th, in my opinion, but it was no organized attempt to overthrow the government, but that is and has been the way the propaganda machine has spun it. Intellectually honest people know this. The Jan 6th commission is a partisan smear campaign, and nothing more.
    4. Trump invited the Russian foreign minister and their ambassador to the White House. Don't you think an incoming President would want to meet with the in-country representatives of the country's primary adversary, pretty early in his term? I would think him negligent if he didn't. Again, propaganda has won you over to confirm your bias.

    I did not post the above to engage in a debate about the merits of your beliefs. I merely posted them as context to explain my "no" vote.

    That said, if Trump committed any actual crime, and he is convicted of it, he absolutely should do time appropriate for the offense, no different than anyone else. But, I will predict that you will not see ANY charges against him until at least 2024, and the timing of those, early or late 2024, will coincide with whether he decides to run for the nomination and if he actually wins the primary.
     
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    That's not pretend.
     
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    Can someone tell me what Trump did LEGALLY that raised his status to cult leader with à direct line to god?
     
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    Why do you support such a "stupid" President?
     
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    Please re-read my post, and pay particular attention to the second sentence. Reading comprehension is a practiced skill. I do not support Mr. Trump. I do, however, support the truth.
     
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    Everything you just said is easily proven false. Clearly you aren't aware of even the most basic facts.
     
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    Trump with his first guests in the White House

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    Trump loves Putin


    And people died because they listened to trump. I've heard the widows saying so. Trump rallies were obviously superspreader events and surely cost many lives. This is beyond dispute.

    Never mind that he declared his love for the cold-blooded killer, Kim Jong Un.

    And he publically called for the russians to get hillary's emails on TV
     
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