Sly Julia on 4 Corners

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  1. Uncle Meat

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    Earliest date for next election (House and Senate), 3rd August 2013
    Latest date for election (House and Senate), 30th November 2013

    Abbott won't face the polls.

    While we're all busy watching the ALP leadership fight, the Libs will put Malcolm back in as leader.
     
  2. dumbanddumber

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    Ju_Liar (the brutus) Gillard

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  3. bugalugs

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    Yet this "incompetent liar"'s government has led Australia to be the most successful economy in the developed world.

    We need more of these "incompetent liars" it seems

    Building the Education Revolution

    More than 23,670 construction projects have been delivered to Australian schools under the federal government's $16.2 billion BER stimulus program, designed to combat the global financial crisis.
    Complaints were lodged by 3.5 per cent of school communities.

    A minority of schools were unhappy with buildings, he said, but "there are going to be some hiccups" when implementing "such a massive project".
    The president of the Federation of Parents and Citizens' Associations of NSW, Helen Walton, said there were cases when P&C associations had to pay for basics such as curtains, air-conditioning and heating after project costs blew out.
    But, overall, she said, "the end product was usually of good quality and provided something to which the school would otherwise not have had access".



    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/thum...sw-victoria-20110708-1h75j.html#ixzz1mR35e4u5



    The Home Insulation Safety Program
    The Home Insulation Program was designed primarily to promote employment and stimulate the Australian economy in response to the global financial crisis, but additional benefits of the program included encouraging immediate energy savings and lowering household energy bills.
    It has also been successful in bringing forward significant quantities of emissions reductions that would otherwise not have occurred.

    http://www.climatechange.gov.au/pub...ions/factsheet-hisp-emissions-reductions.aspx

    That sort of stuff will get you banned from here



    Not really - the Home Insulation Scheme actually reduced deaths

    The work of the CSIRO confirms that fire incidents linked to the installation of insulation occurred prior to the commencement of the HIP.
    The CSIRO has found that, prior to the commencement of the HIP, for every 100,000 households with insulation in place for twelve months or more, around 2.4 fire incidents occur per year

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    In other words, as at 31 March 2011, the level of risk for households with insulation installed under the HIP is now effectively no different to the level of fire incident risk that existed before the program was implemented.
    The CSIRO report further indicates that the fire incident rate for households with insulation installed under the Home Insulation Safety Program is continuing to decline. In fact once the 150,000 inspections are complete it
    will reduce the residual risk (comparable to the fire callout rate) to an estimated 2.2 per 100,000 per yea
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    http://www.climatechange.gov.au/en/...ions/hisp/csiro-report-factsheet-2011-pdf.pdf

    I don't want to hear any more of Alan Jones' nonsense via you.

    Try to read a bit more widely. It is obvious you are simply parroting stuff you heard from a shock-jock. That is why you are always wrong.
     
  4. bugalugs

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    No. Abbott will not be PM

    The Libs may well win the next election. But Abbott wont be leader. And if they win, they will have a minority government with the Greens holding the balance of power.

    Malcolm is sitting back watching Tony shoot his mouth off and waiting
     
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    Here's a curveball for you.

    After todays success with stripping the the very rich of their health care rebate - could Tanya Plibersek be elevated as the new "3rd option"?

    She handles the media better than Julia. And with the moronic level of the electorate at the moment - that seems to be all that is important.
     
  6. dumbanddumber

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    Hey bugs you can thank our mineral resources for our economy the Gillard government hasn't done anything to bolster it.

    As a matter of fact they are hell bend on bringing it down (the economy) with a carbon tax that will not do j@ack(*)(*)(*)(*) to clean up the environment.
     
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    THey are putting on a mining tax so that Australians may gain more income from the resources that belong to the State. Abbott just wants to hand all the profit to Big Gina and her mates.

    Is that a good idea?
     
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    Heck, just stop giving them the GST if thats your concern. Oh wait, Australians live in States duh.

    Mining is already taxed, this is just another desperate publicity stunt which they think they can get away with. They have already left the Manufacturing industry start to die off as a result of their inability to run the country, so it makes sense for an ALP government to try and kill off the other industries.
     
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    Yes bugs that is a good idea.

    Why should foreign corporations reap the benefits and we get pittence.

    As far as i know the royalties of the states is about 6% which is peanuts.

    Heck if it was up to me i would kick them all out and let the government take over then we get 100% return for all Australians instead of making a few alraedy rich greedy moguels richer.

    But many would label me a communist for wanting to exploit our wealth our selves.

    So i would say to these rich moguels you want to come here on our land and get rich of the fat then its 50 - 50 buddy.

    We provide the raw materials they provide the infarstructure and we get 50% otherwise i would say to them p!ss off we'll do it ourselves and keep all the profit.

    Many capatilists forget that as soon as we run out the corporations will drop us faster than a hot spud.

    I say lets exploit it ourselves while we still have it.;);)
     
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    Royalties are based on production. Not sale price.

    If the mining companies have a windfall from increased prices - we deserve the cut as much as they do. Mining companies do not own the resource. The State (ie. us) does.




    oops!?!? Getting your Jones supplied talking points confused there a bit aren't we? Alan won't be happy.

    Tony Abbott wants a $500 million cut from the assistance the car makers had factored into their operations over the next three years. (psssstt...your masters want you to argue against propping up manufacturing)
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/abbot...al-corners-20120202-1qvok.html?skin=text-only
     
  11. hawkins_syd

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    you seem to be quite the fool who has been bought up in a labor family and wont ever think of voting anything else. But i will give you a few facts.

    1. Labor has cost over 5000 jobs in aluminum manufacturing
    2. the banks are raising there interest rates even though the reserve bank kept then at the same level
    3. They have a politician who is under criminal investigation
    4. Julia promised there would be no carbon tax and now there is
    5. They stir up the tent embassy and then blame it on tony abbott
    6. the cattle industry up north is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed
    7. warehousing and small businesses in Australia are badly suffering (ask them)
    8. Penny wong had to be moved from the Murray river to another area of political matter due to her failing everything to do with the river.
    9. NBN will be out of date in less than 2 years time with newer technology to hit in 2014.
    10. she bribes a liberal to become a independent speaker so she can remain onto power at all time.

    Now if you wake up to you're self you will realize NO matter what tony Abbott does he can not (*)(*)(*)(*) things up any worse than this no matter what he does. So i suggest you wake the (*)(*)(*)(*) up.
     
  12. aussiefree2ride

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    Bugs has ordered 563 copies already, and he`s going to read every one of them, in the hope that the ending improves.
     
  13. aussiefree2ride

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    Could you define the "moronic level of the electorate" please?

    Would it be those obsessed with Abbott`s swimming togs?
    Those who believed the "pink bats" fiasco to actually be a success?
    Those who believed the "BER" fiasco to actually be a success?
    Those who believed the "boat people" fiasco to actually be a success?
    Those who believed the Rudd back stab fiasco to actually be OK?
    Those who believed the "Australia Day" fiasco to actually be a OK?
    Those who believed that lying about a carbon tax to be OK?
    Or, those moronic enough to believe that Gillard didn`t lie about a carbon tax?
     
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    Have you thought about what happens to an Nation`s economy when a viable sector, developed by private enterprise, is taken over by the State? USSR anyone?
     
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    Do you think a family of 4 on $166,000 is rich?
     
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    A family of 4 on $166,000 is above the average wage - and they will only have a very minor (10%) reduction in their rebate.

    Tony Abbot wants to ensure that a family of 4 will continue to get a full 30% tax payer funded rebate whether they earn $166,000, $566,000, $1,166,000 or more.

    The very rich don't need tax payer funded welfare.
     
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    Nope.

    Which is why families with an income between $166,000 and $258,000pa will still receive a rebate.
     
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    Yep. moronic
    It created jobs, and insulated a lot of houses at a reduced the death rate from prior to the scheme. there is obviously still a problem in the industry - but the program was successful
    It was successful. 23,670 construction projects with complaints from only 3.5% of schools
    I don't think anyone thinks that is a success
    That's politics. All parties do it. Always have.
    That was a fiasco. Those responsible should face charges
    We don't have a carbon tax. We have a market based pricing scheme with a 3 year fixed price period. A tax would be more successful, but at least the market based price scheme is better than nothing.
     
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    Incidental tripe removed.

    Didn't you say ""After todays success with stripping the the very rich of their health care rebate"? Or were you just salivating over stripping the rich to think your comment through?

    What about a family of 6 with 4 kids in school and a mortage?
     
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    Bugs said

    "After todays success with stripping the the very rich of their health care rebate"

    And i didn't ask you.
     
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    And I don't care.
     
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    People earning six figures a year are pissed off about having to find another grand a year for their private health cover. Umm, its pocket change to these people, get over it!
     
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    It cared enough to respond
     
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    And I don't care.
     
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    Yes I did say that. Me, Gina Rinehart, Twiggy Forest and Julia Gillard will no longer get a rebate at the expense of average taxpayers.

    Do you really want your tax money going to me and Gina as welfare?
     

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