So the left is giving Trump free campaign adverts in court?

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This and Yesterday morning he gets to practically give a campaign speech and rip on Joe's horrible policies at the start of each day when he addresses the public. At least he gets to save some money from all of that lawfare he's had to pay.

    I used to think Trump was somewhat sleazy before all this unprecedented Hitler style lawfare, but now I have sympathy for him and see him as a Martyr. I wonder how many others do too

    Thoughts?
     
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    I have no doubt there are many other deluded people who view Trump as a martyr. Just as there are many deluded people who view Biden as a good president.
     
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    I hope that this "lawfare" strategy blows up in the Democrats' faces. They deserve it. The Democrats are turning our justice system into something that looks like a tinpot country dictatorship.

    They should be basing this presidential campaign on the issues, but they can't. They are wrong on just about all of the issues. Furthermore they have the far left college students raising hell in the country's elite universities. They are promising to disrupt the August Democrat Convention. This could be shaping up like 1968.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure... And he'll be an even bigger "martyr" if he is hauled off to prison in handcuffs. That would be a bi-partisan win! Each of us for different reasons.

    NOBODY. Not a single soul in the world. Least of all YOU.
     
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    Trump acted on the fringes of the law his entire career. Sometimes lines were crossed and, mostly, he got away with it (as countless others do). But then he entered the WH, where everything is regulated and watched. Few people do well under microscopes, Trump included. And now, he's having to answer for the lines he crossed. I think he believed (and still believes) that POTUS is above the law. And now he's finding out he was wrong.
     
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    Playing the pathetic "victim" is his only game now. But at least his open criminality has helped expose how far the GOP has fallen.
     
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    @Darthcervantes

    sssshhh. They don’t realize it yet… he did the same in other campaigns….
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Except this time the criminal system caught up with him for his crimes.

    "The mills of justice grind slowly, but exceedingly fine"
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep gloating about that LAWFARE. Karma sucks, and i'll be there with a liberal tear collection system to make sure nothing is wasted
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Gloating"? There is nothing to gloat about. I am expecting the judicial system to work. If the judicial system doesn't work, that would be something that both Republicans and Democrats will lament. MAGA extremists will be happy. But that's because they have a new religion that is more important to them than their country.

    That is not "gloating". It's simply a statement that the law system is slow but, in the end, most of the time it works.
     
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    Trump, a martyr? Are you kidding?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned for Melania's suffering and humiliation she experienced when her husband was found out that he fornicated with a playboy playmate while Melania was pregnant and then he fornicated again with a porn star just after Melania, as a newlywed, gave birth four months prior?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about suffering of the 8000 in the class action lawsuit who were scammed out of millions in the fake Trump 'university'?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering of the lighting contractor for Trump Taj Mahal Casino, who was forced into bankruptcy when Trump decided not to pay the $1,000,000 he owed him for the lighting he provided, not to mention not returning the lighting?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned for the suffering of the parents of Trump's toddler grand-nephew who had cerebral palsy, the suffering they experienced whom he kicked the toddler off the family health plan just because he had a legal dispute with his deceased brother's estate, mainly his niece, Mary Trump?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering of estate of Fred Trump's son, who died, and Donald Trump tricked his father, Fred, while he was on his deathbed, into signing a new will which cut Trump's deceased brother's estate out of the will, which also excluded Mary, his niece, so that, instead of 1/5th of his father's inheritance, he got 1/4th?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the suffering he caused a widow who Trump tried to use eminent domain to force her from her home so that he could build a limo garage?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about suffering and humiliation 5 black and latino boys experience who were charged with rape, but who were found innocent, but despite that exoneration, Trump bought full page ads in NYPost and other local publications in NY that called for their execution?

    Was Trump, the 'martyr', concerned about the good elderly citizens of Aberdeen Scotland, whose access to water was cut of because of the Golf Course Trump built there?

    When a man like Trump who lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring, is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs, when a man like Trump who is a traitor and a malignancy in our nation and who represents a clear and present danger to our democracy and the rule of law, excuse me if I am unable conceive of Trump, ever, as a 'martyr'.
     
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    Law and Order for thee but not DJT
     
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    Maybe you and your political party need to support someone who isn't a criminal jackass that enjoys breaking laws.

    Just throwing that out there. MAGA
     
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    Trump and his bum kissers are desperately trying to cast the sexual abuser's being brought to justice as a nefarious partisan enterprise, but most who are giving damning sworn testimony under oath in his disparate reckonings with the law, like those who did so during the Congressional investigation into his January 6 goon attack on outnumbered police defending democracy, and all those who served in his regime and got to know him well and are now denouncing the Loser, are REPUBLICANS. Principles in holding the Loser to account, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, and Christopher Wray are not, nor have they ever been, Democrats.

     
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    Exactly! Now you understand the premise of this thread. ALL THOSE THINGS will not be remembered. Just the lawfare. All of those things you mentioned could have been in campaign ads against him but now all most people see is a man being tortured with lawfare and doing it for the American people. One could call it a sacrifice. Not too different from this other man in history who sacrificed himself for others sins.
    Not only is the left gonna make him a martyr but even crazier, they are gonna make him into a Jesus like figure. Meditate on that for a bit.
     
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    Poor Donald being "tortured"....hahahaha...get the F out of here with that whiny bullcrap.
     
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    I get what you are saying but that IS exactly the effect its portraying. I don't think your little blue buddies that are trying to twist the law for election interference thought this one through. I look forward to seeing their spirits get crushed when this ends up actually helping Trump.
    Cheers!
     
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    It only "portrays" that to Trump's blind sheep. I find it comical, with the entire legal profession watching these cases, that people think the law can be "twisted for election interference". That would mean the entire legal profession is in on it. Is that what you and others believe? Do you believe the entire legal profession is in on the scam?
     
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    So trump is above the law. Got it.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice spin attempt. I never said ENTIRE LEGAL PROFESSION. Very funny though. Thanks.
     
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    I, of course, didn't say you did. I ASKED you if you believe that to be the case. This..."?" indicates a question is being asked.
     
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    The Bragg Case Against Trump Is a Legal Embarrassment, And a Historic Mistake.

    'Mr. Trump is accused in the case of falsifying business records. Those are misdemeanor charges. To elevate it to a criminal case, Mr. Bragg and his team have pointed to potential violations of federal election law and state tax fraud. They also cite state election law, but state statutory definitions of “public office” limit those statutes to state and local races.'

    These were entirely internal records, not intended to be shared with anyone outside of the business.

    'Both the misdemeanor and felony charges require that the defendant made the false record with “intent to defraud.” A year ago, I wondered how entirely internal business records (the daily ledger, pay stubs and invoices) could be the basis of any fraud if they are not shared with anyone outside the business. I suggested that the real fraud was Mr. Trump’s filing an (allegedly) false report to the Federal Election Commission, and only federal prosecutors had jurisdiction over that filing.'

    'it is legal for a candidate to pay for a nondisclosure agreement. Hush money is legal.'

    'In Monday’s opening argument, the prosecutor Matthew Colangelo still evaded specifics about what was illegal about influencing an election, but then he claimed, “It was election fraud, pure and simple.”'

    'Without a federal violation (which the state election statute is tethered to), Mr. Bragg cannot upgrade the misdemeanor counts into felonies. Moreover, it is unclear how this case would even fulfill the misdemeanor requirement of “intent to defraud” without the federal crime.'

    We all know what this is.
     
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    No, he'd be a martyr no matter what, But only in the minds of the MAGA crowd, and about them, I could care less.

    Also, note that.

    1. SC Mueller was a republican, appointed by a Rosenstein, a Republican appointed by Trump, a republican.


    2. FBI Dir James Comey is a republican.

    3. FBI Dir Christopher Ray is a republican

    4. AG Garland is an independent

    5 SC Smith is an independent

    6. NY AG James is a Democrat

    7. NYC DA Alan Bragg is a Democrat

    8. Fulton DA Fani Willis is a Democrat.

    9, SC Hur is a Republican.

    All of these folks are involved in the prosecutions of Donald Trump, and it's a diverse crew, Four Republicans, Three Democrats, and two independents

    In other words It's not 'left out to make Trump a martyr'.

    If never was.

    What it is is the American justice system indicting bad people, which is what they are supposed to do. Party affiliations are inadvertent and incidental facts.
     
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    You really have me convinced now. No lawfare here! Thanks for showing me the light.
     
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