Speaker Johnson Mulls Inviting Netanyahu To Address Congress After Schumer's Blistering Words

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    It is the opposite of creating value. It simply dilutes the value of all the existing dollar. It is a way to spend money government doesn't have without having to raise taxes. As I've said before, the U.S. dollar has lost more than 90% of its value over my lifetime.
     
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    Not true.
     
  3. Bill Carson

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    I'm amazed that people don't know the history of israel...how it came about (through terrorism fyi). I'm amazed so many people believe whatever big brother government tells them to believe. Go there. But don't expect any respect and don't advertise any Christianity or you may be spit on by the jews. I've been there twice and I will do whatever I can to avoid that shithole again.
     
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    Maybe Hamas will now learn not to attack Israel.
     
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    sure
     
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    israel is a cancer on the United States.
     
  8. Zorro

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    It's also a way for the government to commandeer goods and services from the economy.
     
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    I'll believe you when the side that allegedly supports innocent Gaza citizens demands that the Israeli hostages be either freed or at least allowed access to humanitarian help. So far, that side is only asking Israel to defend Palestinian lives until the last drop of Jewish blood.
     
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    Anything to say about more than two decades of attacks on Israel with cheap unguided rockets from Gaza?
     
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    No the government writes an order and turns the bill over to the Treasury department that has to pay it. If it doesn't have the money it can borrow or expand the money supply in an amount equal to or greater than the bill. Supply increases reduce value with money just like they do with products so the value of the dollar is decrease a tiny bit. Do it enough times and the value of the dollar decreases more than just a little bit. Government doesn't comandeer products from businesses. It orders them and pays for them. The issue isn't how government acquires products. The issue is how government pays for them.
     
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    Saying "the government" covers a lot of ground. It's important to know that those we voted for do our bidding.

    For example, if we didn't want to fund genocide in Gaza, we wouldn't.
     
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    Sorry to disappoint you but elected officials don't do your bidding. They do what is in their best interest. If that coincides with what you wanted them to do then lucky you. None of them do what I want them to do so I'm not so lucky.
     
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    It's how democracy works.

    Our system really allows only two parties. Thinking that a party represents everything you want is nonsense. Plus, the guy you vote for may lose!
     
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    When you and I, who have to earn our money are competing for goods and services with someone who prints their money, we cannot effectively compete with for the available goods and services.

    So when government decides that they want something out of the economy, they simply print up the money and take it.
     
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    For my own education, can you state something where you feel you are in competition with the government?
     
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    No, that isn't the problem. The problem is that there are lines of hundreds of semi trucks with aid, and Israel allows them in only after the completely unpack each one and then repack. And, they allocate few people to the task.

    The result is that the aid sits for days in semis lined up outside Gaza.
     
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    One assumes there are delays while the Israelis inspect the trucks for weapons destined for Hamas. Days are probably not true.
     
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    That would be true if government produced things in competition with the private sector. But that is not the case. Government is a customer for the private sector.
     
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    Yes, and when we that have to earn our money, try to compete with the government that prints its money, they have an advantage that we really can't overcome.
     
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    How do we compete with government?
     
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    They are purchasing from the same productive base that the rest of us are, and with the ability to print money they can bid up prices until they get what they want.
     
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    They bid prices down. There is no motivation for government to pay more than necessary. The money printing happens after government makes the purchase, not before.

    If your concern is that government clears available stock so you can't buy what you want I would say that is normally not something that happens. Generally providers need to produce to a government order since they are mostly unusually large orders.

    I have encountered this however. I remember getting orders to supply equipment to aircraft carriers that were needed emergently because of the war in Iraq. They cleared the shelves nationally. Some items were out of stock everywhere for a couple of months. When government has an emergency it is a big one. They paid what we asked by the way.
     
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