Speaker Johnson Mulls Inviting Netanyahu To Address Congress After Schumer's Blistering Words

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    It's also transfer payments.

    Say you are in community of 100 where you all labor and trade goods and services for the currency you jointly possess. If the government decides some of your group are more worthy, or engaged in more worthy pursuits, saying making better batteries for EVs, and so they create money and start shoveling money in the pockets of the favored, their ability purchases goods and services will increase, by driving up the price, which is no problem for them as they can simply create more money, but it takes from the rest of the group.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to whom? The Israeli army?

    What does this have to do with using unguided weapons?

    Citation needed. Also, are you just counting those dying in bombings or those dying of starvation and thirst after the fact?

    I don’t have to believe Hamas or Israel. The UN says 300k people are about to starve to death. Israel and Hamas are to blame. But the difference between those two is one purports to be a civilized nation.

    Wait, so is it Hamas that is reporting that Israel is using unguided bombs? Cause I'm pretty sure I learned of that from other sources

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/13/politics/intelligence-assessment-dumb-bombs-israel-gaza/index.html
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/m...-unguided-bombs-and-harm-to-civilians-in-gaza

    I could just as easily say you have fallen victim to Israeli propaganda. But only the weak-minded would make a move like that. I prefer to take your arguments head on. They're easy enough to shoot down without cheap tricks.

    To the contrary. If they are targeting apartment buildings and hitting them, it sounds like their weapons are well guided.

    I haven't specifically followed collateral deaths in Ukraine, but I suspect they are significantly lower because unlike Gaza, it is not the most heavily populated area in the world.

    It is conceivably acceptable collateral damage when Israel bombs a building that has a mix of Hamas and civilians. But that's not what I'm taking issue with. Israel is using cheap unguided bombs, resulting in even more collateral damage that could have been avoided with more expensive weaponry. But they can't be bothered to spend money protecting Palestinians.
    Now you're starting to show your hand. You are blaming the innocent civilians for getting bombed because they didn't do enough to stop Hamas. So basically you've proven my hunch that your position is predicated on a lack of empathy for those civilians.

    It is downright silly to hold innocent civilians accountable for the fact that they were born and raised in an ass-backward country. Do you honestly think Palestinians have enough perspective to recognize that Hamas are the bad guys? All they have known their whole lives is that Israel controls their food, water and electricity. It's only natural that they're going to hate Israel and idolize Hamas. I'm not justifying their hatred. It's just a natural consequence of decades of poor Israeli policy with respect to Gaza.
    I assume the bombings are only the tip of the iceberg. Most people are dying from thirst and starvation.
     
  3. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    You can look at ANY source you want to find the number of trucks in line and the number allowed through per day.

    Or, you can just make assumptions.
     
  4. fmw

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    Any source? You didn't really say that did you? Delays? sure. How many trucks that didn't have weapons were turned back.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    That is YOUR excuse. But, you can't support it.

    The UN Secretary General on his visit stated:

    “Here from this crossing, we see the heartbreak and heartlessness … a long line of blocked relief trucks on one side of the gates, the long shadow of starvation on the other,” he said.

    About 7,000 aid trucks are waiting in Egypt's North Sinai province to enter Gaza, Gov. Mohammed Abdel-Fadeil Shousha said in a statement.

    Military.com

    This doesn't include what's going on with aid trucks at the northern crossing, which has been open intermittently at best.
     
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    Sorry, the UN Secretary representing the anti semitic UN has no credibility with me when it comes to Israel. 7000 trucks are probably waiting to be checked for weapons. The Israelis need to do that for their own survival. Sorry.
     

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