Speaker Mike Johnson booed at Columbia University as he calls for president to quit unless pro-Pales

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. Hamas was never a strategic threat to Israel at all. Losing 1000 people sucks, but it's not a strategic threat. It's sort of like 9/11. Did the Taliban really ever have a shot at destroying America? Were they an existential threat? Not at all. Some people may have wanted us to, but did we bomb the hell out of all of the civilians in Afghanistan to ensure we destroy the Taliban? No, that would be insanely immoral. It's how Israel acts.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wake up! he DID accomplish exactly what he wanted to - showing the blood thirsty behavior of the INTOLERANT left for the whole world to see. If they showed decency and respect then his visit would have been a FAIL but, it was a 100% success. I'm sorry most of you fail to see the clearly obvious
     
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    Small nitpick here: If a war cannot be won by killing more of the enemy, you haven't actually killed enough of them.
    Real world example: Carthago delenda est.

    The rest is correct.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You condoned the murder of children and unarmed civilians. There's no way around it.
     
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  5. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    delete, rewriting
     
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  6. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    No I didn't.

    Those were my posts prior to yours. I think the bolded is the relevant one. I said it was the wrong thing to do but expected. Expected doesn't mean it's okay. It means it could have been predicted and prevented if people weren't being idiots. If I go to a poor and violent neighborhood and call a black person the N-word, it's expected I may get killed. But should such a murder be condoned? No. Both sides are bad guys in both stories. Either could have chosen to be better, and didn't.
     
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  7. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is it "EXPECTED"?
    Why aren't Ukranian and Russian American students running around acting like idiots over THAT war?
    It sounds to me like BS and excuses. You will need a better justification than "its expected"
    Gimme a break.
    You practically proved @Wild Bill Kelsoe to be correct
     
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    I guess Russia doesn't send as many people to our schools, he does it via social media posters
     
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    Those "protestors" are mostly Americans and all of different backgrounds. Its a university. Its a melting pot. WHY is it this ONE war they want to get violent over? I have lots of theories. One of them is the 4 youngest and trendiest congresswomen are also the most OPENLY Antisemitic politicians we've ever had.
    Do I think that's the cause?, no, but it's one of the many tiny building blocks of it.
    You also got youth that is branwashed with leftist concepts that contradict themselves -
    TOLERANCE and ACCEPTANCE for example.
    This all gets very muddy when they want to defend radical Islamists overseas who HATE LBGT and HATE Jews.
    Catch 22s all over the place. It drives them to madness. Even worse! I bet a handful of them are not antisemitic and are partaking because its what their peers are doing (that's even worse, one might even call it, SYSTEMIC)
     
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    You've yet to condemn the October 7 attack.
     
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    It's also expected that that person will pay a heavy price.
     
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    Yes, Israel has acted morally.
     
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    cause they expected better from Israel, they don't from Russia? Israel is supposed to be the good guys, many are disappointed in the way they handled this?

    Bombing Hositals, groups bringing in humitarian aid, tryign to starve the gazians, etc....

    it's ok to go after Hamas, but many do that see that as Isreals goal, seems they want to get rid of Gazians
     
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    You expect genocide and rape as an understandable, reasonable reaction to being mistreated?

    Holy crap dude. The F is wrong with you
     
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    That's collateral damage. It's because Hamas is using non-combatants as human shields. Why are you defending Hamas?
     
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    No, that is not what expected means.
     
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    So your expectations are based on irrationality?

    dig that hole deeper Bud.
     
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    Definitely. Should their neighbors pay the price too?
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. I do expect people to be emotional and irrational. The posts on this thread show it quite well. Policy decisions, hell national security decisions, to be effective, must assume that.
     
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    Glad to know if you flip me off in traffic you’ll be expecting me to follow you and set your house on fire. Such expectations must make you be a very nice person to everyone. Good for you, we need more nice people
     
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    If they hide in their neighbor's house, then it's a given.

    Hamas set up HQ's and stored weapons in hospitals. It's "expected" that that hospital will get hit.
     
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    Here's how your analogy works with my point. If I go around flipping people off in traffic, odds are something bad will eventually happen to me by having this bad habit. It's expected. But if somebody murders me, or assaults me, they can also expect they will pay a price. Israel went around flipping people off. They acted stupidly, or immorally. It's not okay what happened to the innocent people on October 7th, but it could have been anticipated and it was motivated in large part by Israel's behavior. The perpetrators should be punished severely. But that doesn't mean Israel gets a blank check to do ethnic cleansing.
     
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    No, not at all a given. The police would try not to kill the neighbor. They would not blow up the house not caring if they kill innocent people. Hamas is more like a criminal organization than a foreign government. They should have been treated as criminals, and the citizens should have been treated as innocents.
     
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  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    The police aren't going to blow the house up anyway.

    But, if the cops go in hot, the person who owns the house might get shot unintentionally.
     
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    I didn’t realize how peaceful everyone was to Jews until the Jews started being mean. Could you point me to that period in history that was, exactly?

    A more accurate analogy isn’t that Jews started being mean and therefore bad things started happening to them. It’s that Jews get followed and their house set on fire whether they flip anyone off or not
     

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