Speaker Mike Johnson booed at Columbia University as he calls for president to quit unless pro-Pales

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    That's fine. The expectation wasn't zero civilian casualties. The expectation was that they take measures to minimize them. Telling civilians to go somewhere, and then bombing the hell out of that area with 2000 lb bombs, is not minimizing civilian casualties. Bombing a refugee camp, killing many people to get at alleged Hamas guy, is not minimizing casualties. Denying aid to civilians, shooting them while they get aid, killing air workers, is not minimizing civilian casualties. Really, their behavior seems to be even more egregious than what we would expect if they were simply minimizing IDF casualties while having no regard for civilian casualties. They seem to want to increase civilian casualties whenever there's sufficient plausible deniability to avoid alienating their cheerleaders in the United States.
     
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    I don't know if I want to get into the complicated history of the area, but no this isn't about jews in particular being mean. This situation is special as it's an area where zealots on both sides have been unwilling to compromise enough to co-exist peacefully, is the short version.

    Israel is, of course, one of many regimes throughout history deserving condemnation for terrible acts. Russia today also deserves strong condemnation. Israel is judged a bit harsher because we have higher standards in modern times, and they are our allies and other nations judge us by their actions.
     
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    Why weren't Jewish students raging in colleges and on the streets over October 7th?
     
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    There could have been ONE non-combatant casualty and you would say the same thing you're saying now.

    And yes, Israel has gone to greater lengths to avoid collateral damage than any fighting force in history...

    https://www.newsweek.com/israel-imp... Casualties,Other Nation in History | Opinion
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    No, I would be very impressed with 1, lol. I'd be amazed and admire that. No, that's pure propaganda that Israel is doing that. We know it is because the media has been able to follow their actions well enough to know they lie, including with satellite data of when and where they drop big bombs compared to where they tell civilians to go.
     
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    Palestine Protester Tries To Argue With Skinhead But They Just Agree On Everything https://buff.ly/40lMpHa

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    '"Wait, what? You hate the Jews too?" asked Chuck Peaslee, a college student and Palestine liberation warrior. "I wanted to punch a Nazi today, but you're making it pretty difficult right now, bro."'

    'The skinhead, a representative from a local chapter of the Aryan Knights of Odin's Revenge had just finished explaining to Peaslee that his group also seeks the annihilation of the Jewish people. "Right on, man!" the Skinhead said. "The nation of Israel has no right to exist and should be wiped off the face of the earth! High five!"'

    Bribed Joe seeks the DEATH TO AMERICA vote.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Bribed Joe seeks the DEATH TO AMERICA vote."

    Wat? Biden spoke out on this nonsense, it's getting out of hand

    "Biden denounces antisemitism on college campuses amid Yale, Columbia protests"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/21/columbia-university-protest-biden-antisemitism/

    “This blatant Antisemitism is reprehensible and dangerous — and it has absolutely no place on college campuses, or anywhere in our country,” the statement said.
     
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    Because the United States wasn't giving Hamas billions of dollars to kill Israelis. And Israel was quite capable of avenging themselves many-fold.
     
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    cause it was over in a flash, this has been slow and painful to watch

    I hope Israel gets Hamas, but they need to do better
     
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    They might as well have. They are financed by Iran who is recently got lots of $$$ from the USA.
    That still doesn't explain why its only THIS war. Was Russia a bunch of Angels to Ukraine or something?
    You can't expect me to believe them being Jews has nothing to do with all the leftist college campus rage and hate and intimation of JEWish students.
    you got @FreshAir trying to use TIME as an excuse (hamas did it faster) and here we got you saying its because of $$$.
    I'm sure next it will be something about global warming. The college kids got angry because of the rise in temperature!
    So far I've got nothing but PITIFUL excuses
    Get back to me when you have something tangible

    Cheers!
     
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    rare picture of the far right agreeing with others on something?
     
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    Take a long hard look at those two. Biden's next 2 cabinet members
     
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    Since that skinhead has way more in common with the left I'd say you are wrong. But not even the far left. That picture is basically the new "moderate" left.
    SICK!!!!
     
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    white nationalist are mostly republican these days, they always been conservatives
     
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    Columbia welcomed this hater as a student prior to the riots.

    “I, TOO, HATE WHITE PEOPLE”: ‘Zionists Don’t Deserve To Live’: Meet The Leader Of Columbia University’s Anti-Israel Encampment.

    Meet some Leftists of today: Columbia student Khymani James: "Be grateful that I'm not just going out and murdering Zionists."

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    Tweezes his eyebrows and glosses his lips.

    'James, who states in the hearing that he goes by “he/she/they” pronouns, live-streamed his meeting with Columbia’s Center for Student Success and Intervention, where he doubled down on an Instagram post that sparked the report. In the report, which he reads aloud at the start of the meeting, James warned Zionists who may want to “meet up and fight” and that he “fights to kill.”'

    He thinks he's a lion.

    'he claimed that the school conceded it would not call law enforcement on the encampment.'

    'he defends his belief that all Zionists deserve to die. “I feel very comfortable, very comfortable, calling for those people to die,” James says. “And with that being said, Khymani is signed out.”'

    He also states that he's armed.

    Are firearms allowed on campus at Columbia?

    Why no, they are prohibited.

    https://www.housing.columbia.edu/dont-bring

    While I'm sure this would be enforced against a Trump supporter, doesn't look like it will be enforced against a guy who claims he would like to kill a lot of Jews.

    'When asked about the seriousness of taking someone’s life, James said that sometimes it is necessary to murder people.'
     
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    back in my university days, i knew a couple guys who were in the JDL. they'd eat that turkey for lunch
     
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    Possibly some things we don't know about.
    Reports are coming out that Iranian agents are behind the demonstrations. It is possibly a cooperative plan between democrats who are stuck with them, republicans who will step up because they can. Neither side wants them near them, but someone has to do something. These guys are all interbred with each other through association with these private universities. This is home turf for the swamp.
     
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    He also called on Biden to call in the national guard and ever since then the song “Four dead in Ohio” has been earworming through my brain
     
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    Except that even using Hamas' obviously untrustworthy casualty numbers, the collateral damage rate is 1.5/1 which beats every other modern army engaged in urban warfare.

    Back to topic:

    Pro-Palestinian students have been responsible for an overwhelming amount of shoutdowns and violence since October 7.

    'In 2023, FIRE recorded 53 attempted event disruptions on campus — 22 of which failed, and 31 that resulted in substantial event disruptions, where a speaker was successfully shouted down or forced to relocate to finish their remarks. Thirteen of these disruptions involved a controversy over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and most of them occurred after October 7.'

    'As of April 12, FIRE has already recorded 30 event disruptions in 2024 — 19 attempted, 11 successful. Twenty-seven of them involved controversies regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.'

    This will be the excuse for these elements of the Left to riot in cities that will allow it, from now through the election.

    'That’s already more than double the total number of disruptions in all of 2023.'

    'Moreover, pro-Palestinian protesters are responsible for every single attempted and successful disruption we have seen related to the Israel-Palestinian conflict in 2024.'

    'The successful event disruptions include the following incidents, all of which required campus police or security to escort speakers off-campus:'

    Read the whole thing

    https://greglukianoff.substack.com/p/hypocrisy-projection-civil-disobedience
     
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    There is no Hamas estimate. They only give how many bodies they've found, as well as gender and age. 70% of bodies found are women and children, but that doesn't mean the other 30% are all combatants, or that none of the children are combatants. Bodies are likely missing, and they do not check whether the bodies are of Hamas or not. One reporter got an estimate out a Hamas operative, but when asked to verify Hamas denied the figure. Nobody knows at all, frankly. Israel is completely talking out of their ass.

    How does Gaza’s Ministry of Health calculate the death toll? | AP News

    Yeah they go over the line - protesting has limits as to what's okay - but of course they're pro-Palestinian. What do Israeli advocates have to protest over with regards to the conflict itself? October 7th has already been avenged at least 25-fold. The only thing they have to complain about is when the pro-Palestinian side slips into true antisemitism, as opposed to criticizing Israel as a regime.
     
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    They are already there! Your sugar coating attempt has been noted. If it was only about Israel then they wouldn't be harassing AMERICAN Jews.
    You might wanna find a better excuse to justify their violence and anti-semetic blood lust
    Also, the left's reputation is ruined forever. NOBODY is ever gonna be able to view them as anything but Jew-haters.
    I know I will NEVER drop it!
     
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    I didn't say they're not here. And I didn't say it was okay. Yes, being anti-semitic because of Israel's actions is wrong.

    You're wrong about the left being tainted by this. The supersensitive people about Israel are going to die off, unless the cure for aging is found soon.

    In views of Israel-Hamas war, younger Americans stand out | Pew Research Center

    This figure stands out to me most: [​IMG]
     
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    Nice chart, but too late! They are already being referred to as the HITLER YOUTH. On top of that, the older democrats are encouraging their behavior so they are also Hitler by association (I learned this labeling method from the left, don't get mad!)
    So long story short, its gonna take CENTURIES for the left to shake their new Antisemitic platform.
    I'd be curious to see how many less Jews join the party going forward (there's a lot more of them then you think, why do you think your little blue buddies are now openly calling for the final solution" (YIKES!!!!)
    You hear that sound? That's the sound of the Left's reputation going further down the crapper than every before but now its worse than ever because they can no longer use the Hitler card for everything since well, you know, it doesn't even need to be said at this point. Lets just say our little strange mustached friend is VERY proud of the left.
     
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    Nothing so dramatic as that at all, though I am sure the conservative propaganda machine is working hard to make it come true, as they have for many other self-serving lies over the past few decades. As the electorate ages, support for funding Israel will decline, and we will no longer fund them. They will thrive or not on their own. They should consider a 2-state solution and not pissing off everybody else in the meantime.

    Labeling theory is a really good model from sociology for sure. But we're so tribal the only ones that matter are right and left. The right already "knows" the left is evil. The left already "knows" the right is evil. Anything else is fake news.
     
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    I agree with most of what you are saying, but the left's is now the party of Hitler and I don't think those woulds will heal quickly. I feel bad for the lefties that aren't into the Jew hate. Just like the right is the party of "forcing women to have their rapist's babies", even though probably 1 out of a 1000 of them probably actually believe that is OK to do, it still is hard to shake.
    I hope the right weaponizes this AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!
    Time to put this corrupt, genocidal party in its place!
     

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