Special counsel goes directly to Supreme Court to resolve whether Trump has immunity from prosecutio

I was under the impression that Trump had access to all discovery. If you're talking about classified documents, then sorry, but if they're still classified, they cannot be removed from a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility). In those cases, he has to go to the evidence, it cannot be brought to him.

If that isn't what you meant, please (again, ad infinitum) provide a link.

 

You keep repeating Trump's pathetic "I'm a victim!" bleats, but you never back up your claims with evidence. I keep hoping that you'll learn how to debate an issue.

 

As with earlier, it's near impossible to decipher his gobbledegook, but I'm GUESSING he's talking about Durbin "threatening" to impose some ethics rules and standards on this corrupt SCOTUS if they didn't make a try for themselves...

Ethics rules for judges/justices, of course, being VERBOTEN in MAGALand....

 

By Trump's chosen SCOTUS picks. Right.

 

That's not his actually skin color. Trump uses orange foundation.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/12/6/20998822/trump-orange-concealer-bronx-colors

The makeup is the real reason why he refused to wear masks during the pandemic.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/donald-trump-mask-makeup

Seriously, men should not wear foundation, especially not with a major combover on a windy day. The White House had to photoshop the pic in the Tweet.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/politics/donald-trump-photoshop-tan-face-photo/index.html

 

Trump declassified the documents.... the memo sets in the federal register..

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/DCPD-202100044/pdf/DCPD-202100044.pdf
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...to-the-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation

 

A tad mean, but funny!

 

See #76. I'm pretty sure that's the discovery Trump is whining about.

 

Fair enough... replace "Skin Color" with "Chosen Skin Presentation"

 

Naw ... he's just repeating the corruption nonsense from Trump's head.

 

Mehhh, Agent Orange is perfection....

 

What I saw when I was looking it up is the judge put an order in place that the Trump couldn't release anything to anyone outside of the defense team, like media or reporters, or even individuals, from my memory.
I looked but I don't see a reply from @CornPop, so I'll just never learn that important information. I mean, withholding discovery would be a big deal! (if it really happened!)

Edit: maybe I'm ignore. Is there a way for me to see if I'm on ignore so I don't keep replying to them?

 

The only reason double jeopardy wouldn't apply is that the Senate is not a judicial body, but rather a political one. The Senate was not judging based on whether the actions were criminal or not, but whether they were worthy of expulsion. Now, whether one agrees or not, they voted otherwise(If you want my personal opinion, I think the Senate and certainly Republican leader McConnell thought it to be a dead issue, since he was already out of office. If you recall, the novelty of having an impeachment of a citizen.)


The Presidential Immunity thing is actually a lot closer(especially if one takes the Dershowitz legal view on the principle). Essentially, one can claim an executive action was in the interest of the country if he thought it so. In this case, Trump lobbied these protests in one final ditch of remaining President, and at that time, he was still legally President.

One way the Court can wiggle out of this though, is that Trump did not take an executive act, or acting as President but rather as a political candidate(in fact, I wouldn't be shocked if this is the ruling), and as a political candidate, he should be liable to the same laws that any other candidate would be.

If the Court does take the interest of trying to split the canard, I can see them making a novel argument for double jeopardy. Arguing that though the Senate is not a judicial body, it nevertheless tried the case in public opinion, which itself is an injury that is unique to this particular defendant, and the Senate chose not to disqualify him from office.

Wouldn't it be rather ironic for the DOJ to try the defendant for actions the Senate acquitted him of(even if the acquittal is more along the lines of 'we don't care')? That would result in a scenario where the judiciary would have ruled differently than the Senate, and Trump can easily make that into a problem with his messaging and his people.

TLDR: I can see SCOTUS ruling he's not immune, but making a novel argument that double jeopardy does apply in this case.

 

Quote; “It’s all about election interference…”

Really?

Prior to Trump’s officially announcement of his 2024 presidential run, he was already under investigation related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 Election, his hoarding of top secret documents at his Florida estate, plus a state probe in Georgia.

Election interference? MY ARSE!

 

Well written post, but he's going to lose on both claims.. the only question is if it will be in time to keep this trial on the March track..

 

That only pertains to those docs. He had much more than that. Besides, being declassified doesn’t mean he can steal them

 

I think it's based on your debate style, if one can call it that.

 

Why not answer? Got nuthin?

 

The memo you pasted into your post is from several years ago, when Trump declassified the old, Obama era "Crossfire Hurricane" documents, a move he made in order to throw dirt on others and detract attention from his own bee ess. These are not the documents he had in one of his spare toilets at Mar a Lago.

Trump did not declassify the Secret and Top Secret documents he absconded with. As a former president, he likely still has clearance to see them, but only in a SCIF. Part of the problem is that his lawyers do not have clearances.

Nothing improper is taking place with discovery in the documents case. That's just more of Trump's lies.

 

Good question. I'd like to be able to see that, too. It could save us from bothering to reply. I'll ask the mods.

 

Agreed. And our opinion is supported by none other than……Brett Kavanaugh…!!

“Kavanaugh said he doesn’t believe that a president is immune from being charged with a crime, but said the criminal process has traditionally not occurred while the president is still in office.”

“The Justice Department has for 45 years held the position that “the timing of a criminal process should be after the president leaves office,” Kavanaugh said.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/05/key-moments-kavanaugh-hearing-807176

Thanks Brett…!

 

That SHOULD be the ruling..

 

Why would I? The left already created a whole character of me in thier heads. Apparently yall already know what I believe.

 

This makes zero sense.

 

Your debate style…? Couldn’t agree more…!!