Special counsel indicts 13 Russian nationals in Russia investigation

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  1. Mac-7

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    Thats not surprising

    The election is over and bernie lost

    But if the russians cant find a younger ex commie than Sanders to further their agenda then 2020 is just around the corner
     
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    They knew where it came from and paid for it and then tried to undermine the election with it so explain why were are not investigating the known collusion and interference by foreign agents in an attempt to undermine the election. You guys claim Trump used a foreign agent to try and get dirt on Clinton, a claim you cannot substantiate yet we KNOW the DNC and Clinton campaign DID do so yet you want to turn a blind eye to it.
     
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    That matter has already been adjudicated. They did not violate FEC regulations.

    Nor is there anything to this collection of right wing distractions and distortions.
     
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    Why would they do that?

    Trump is accomplishing the mission they gave him. And they own him in the bargain.

    You won't be happy when the Mueller investigation turns to indicting people involved in Trump and Russian money laundering and the degree to which the Russians have their hooks into Trump and the Trump Organization (and Jared Kushner) becomes public, as it will.

    Why do you think Trump fought tooth and nail to hide his tax returns and financial information?

    I used to think that it was because he was only worth a fraction of what he boasted. But since he has spent the last 13 months acting like he has something big to hide, I'm not sure that's the main reason.
     
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    There was no undermining attempt. Nobody even saw it until after the election.
    We know don jr met with a foreign agent seeking dirt, and may have promised sanction relief in exchange. There's not even any evidence that anyone at the DNC knew who steeles sources were, no promises were made and the info wasn't used
     
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    Trump is fighting back and not supplying anything to the mueller witch hunt that he does not have to
     
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    Mueller is corrupt and not to be trusted. Look at how he attempted to charge Flynn with lying, even though the FBI agents that interviewed him reported that he did not lie on their 302 forms. We need to see if those forms have been criminally altered by a corrupt FBIHQ.

    Look at how Mueller jackbooted Manafort, a cooperating witness, with a pre-dawn raid and frisked his wife, in bed, without allowing her to dress first. These are truly dirty rotten corrupt power hunger monsters. They need to be investigated, charged, tried and sentenced.

    Judicial Watch: "FBI Needs to Be Shut Down," Transferred to US Marshals Service:

    Noting some of the major blunders of the FBI, such as failing to follow protocols with the Florida school shooter and failing to follow leads on the Boston Marathon bombers, Judicial Watch's Director of Investigations Chris Farrell said FBI Director Christopher Wray should be replaced and that the entire FBI should be restructured as a "new investigative arm of the U.S. Marshals Service."
     
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    The claims in the right wing media are nonsense, and have been thoroughly debunked.

    There is no evidence of collusion with Russian operatives other than the ones involiving Donald Jr, Paul Manafort, Carter Page, et al.
     
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    We also know that Paul Manafort offered to brief Russian intelligence operatives on the inside operations of the Trump campaign.

    And we know that Carter Page met with Russians about sanctions while working for the Trump campaign during the election.

    We know that Jared Kushner tried to set up a back channel communiction with the Kremlin using Russian intelligence assets in the embassy in Washington. The Russians had to tell him what a stupid idea that was!
     
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    Is that true? Source? I hadn't heard that
     
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    If they're not guilty they're the guiltiest looking innocent people ever lol
     
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    What flaim did I make? Give me a link to the post.

    Meanwhile you should provide your evidence of collusion between the Clinton campaign and foreign nationals.
     
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    You mean something on Trump like assaulting women, or cheating on his wives, or lying constantly, or running a fraudulent university, or bribing porn stars, or using foreign wokers at his Florida club. Or his not implimenting the sanctions against Russia Or like his promise of great health insurance for all Americans, Or his pretending his tax cuts were targeted to help the middle class. Or did you have something else in mind.
     
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    Sorry, but Trump started acting like he has something to hide before the election, when he refused his security breifings (he didn't want them confronting him with what they were finding out or asking questions), and hiding his financials. He decided to denounce the idea of Russian collusion months before Mueller was appointed.

    Try and keep up.
     
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    Don't forget that Trump was sued on average, once every business day for the twenty years before he announced for President. Mostly for screwing partners and not paying his bills.

    Which is why none of the blue chip law firms would take his case. He doesn't listen, and he doesn't pay.
     
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    Thanks for contributing. I also forgot while he was deploring jobs going overseas he and his family were busy putting Trump labels on an endless variety of products they had made overseas.
     
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    Well perhaps you could provide us with a source that is an example of one of these facts that main stream sources want to keep hidden from us. Or are you just talking about speculation that regular to which sources are unwilling to venture.
     
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    Thats a great idea
     
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    I assume you know it was left-wingers who were parroting the fake Russian propaganda peeing prostitutes story on this site. Could you give us an example of Russian propaganda that these righties have parroted on this forum?
     
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    The briefers do not interrogate the president they are briefing

    Unless they are slimy swamp creatures who are just trying to set trump up for a fall
     
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    Not to mention staffing most of his golf properties with H1B visa folks!
     
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    They didn't have to interrogate him. I have no idea where you pulled that out of.

    When Sally Yates went over to brief him about Flynn, she almost certainly knew that she wasn't telling him anything he didn't already know.

    All they had to do was list the contacts his team had with various Russians, and his mysterious elecronic communications with the Alpha Bank, his real estate deal in Moscow (which he tried to enter into an agreement on during the campaign), and the antics of Kushner and Don Jr.

    They only had to ask one question.

    "is there anything you want to tell us?"
     
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    Document your claim. What fake news sites carried that story, and what evidence do you have that it is not true?
     
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    The fake Russian peeing prostitutes story was parroted forever on this web site. Are you saying you never saw it?
     
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    When was story proven to be false?
     
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