Special counsel indicts 13 Russian nationals in Russia investigation

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  1. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    How could you not vote for Bernie after seeing this Russian ad:

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  2. AmericanNationalist

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    When was it proven to be true? But we also know that Cohen never went to Prague and that the Rosneft deal never went to Page but to Qatar.
    (Of course, seeing as the Russians called him a dumbass I doubt very much they would want to deal with someone they knew busted one of theirs.)

    So we know there's false information inside of it. That makes everything else equally as fraudulent. Which is why its "author"(if he's the one who even authored it) isn't willing to testify on the matter. Neither is Simpson for that matter lol.

    If anyone should get a visit from Mueller, it's Simpson since he refused to provide the names of the sources to the Congressional Committee.
     
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    You speculate a lot Tom about details you really dont know

    But you are confusing the daily security briefing with the Deep State beating a confession out of the president in the Oval Office
     
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    "At this point, you’ve got a 200-and-some-odd record of the U.S. Marshals Service performing honorable work," he said. "So let’s create an investigative branch or division within the U.S. Marshals Service. Let the very fine agents, at the rank and file level who are trying to do their jobs, let them apply for, be screened, and then be admitted to this new investigative division. Then let’s take what’s left over of an obvious, deeply flawed organization, certainly at the headquarters, and shake it out."
     
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    Congress has the power to arrest, they even have a Jail available to Congress to hold prisoners, and while everyone is reluctant to do this, they can hold folks that will not answer questions, in contempt, and lock them up until their tongue's loosen.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    Show me the felonies Trump committed in a federal court and before a grand jury. It is YOU guys who do not have a leg to stand on here. It was the DNC and Clinton campaign that colluded with foreign nationals and foreign government to run a smear campaign and undermine the election through the Steele document.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    When was it proven to be true, burden of proof is on the accuser. Where is it? Who witnessed it, give me a name.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    Why are you asking people to prove a negative. YOU prove it is true, burden of proof is on the accuser. What proof has been offered?
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    You really think people put credibility into you made up baseless narratives? They do not substitute for facts and evidence you know. Pure conjecture.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

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    The accusation made was that it's false, which hasn't been proven
     
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  11. Bluesguy

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    Burden on the accuser to prove the accusations. Where is it? What has been proven true?
     
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    Again the claim was it was proven fake, and that's not the case.
     
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  13. Bluesguy

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    Again it is the accusation that bears the burden of proof, what you got. Cant be proved then taken as false.
     
  14. The Mello Guy

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    So I assume you're an atheist lol
    Something not proven isnt automatically fake. I could give 30 examples of things you believe that are not proven.
     
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    It's interesting that one of the indicted is Yevgeny Prigozhin. Prigozhin is a Russian oligarch who "coincidentally" just happens to control the Russian mercenary group that attacked US-backed forces at an oil/gas field in Syria resulting in upwards of 300 Russian nationals being killed by US air strikes. So Prigozhin, nicknamed as Putin's Chef, is apparently Putin's go-to guy when it comes to dirty work.

    If Mueller pops up a link between Putin's Chef and Manafort or anyone else in the Trump Admin, it's game over for Manafort and anyone else. That's pure treason right there.
     
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    How about you start with the indictments that Mueller has filed? Have you actually read them yourself or are you just parroting what the alt right disinformation sources are telling you is in them?
     
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    Nope, I just understand the reality of it.
     
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    I saw it,

    But I never saw it promoted by a Russian based fake news site. I didn't see it parroted by the sort of here today, gone tommorow news sites that Trumpster constantly quoted and linked to here in the fall of 2016 either.

    Since it was in the Steele Dossier, which was public information, the major media covered the story.

    There is no evidence that it is false. None, so far, that it is true either.

    So your claim is a false comparison. But we already knew that.
     
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  19. glitch

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    You're still clinging to a discredited memo that even Steele admits is filled with lies. Pushing the hope that maybe 70-90% is valid even though he has zero way to verify this. Clinging to fake Russian propaganda fed to you from a Russian agent.
     
  20. CourtJester

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    Yes, he has doubled the membership cost since becoming President but can't somehow manage to pay enough to attract American workers. " Make America Great Again" ha, ha.
     
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    Think it was about the same time the Porn Star story or the Playmate Bunny stories were proven false.
     
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    Where did Steele admit it was full of lies. Provide exact quote please.
     
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    Where did I say Trump has committed felonies? Post number please. Otherwise please attempt to stay on topic.
     
  24. glitch

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    "The former British intelligence officer behind the controversial Trump dossier believes his reports are "70 percent to 90 percent" accurate, according to a new book about Russia's influence in the 2016 election written by Guardian reporter Luke Harding."

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-70-90-percent-of-his-trump-russia-dossier-is
     
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    You briught up impeachment and said
    Show me where Trump committed felonies in a federal court and a federal grand jury. Show me where the Democrats called for Clinton to step down.
     
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