State wants answers from Zimmerman

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  1. Margot

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    George had NO authority... He never had any.. NO cop would ever have behaved so recklessly. George is simply stupid..
     
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    You missed the baseless assertion. The EMT who testified treated him and testified there was "quite a lot of blood", 45% of his head was covered in blood. That the injuries to the back of his head were consistent with blunt force trauma, being hit against a hard object.
    http://www.kwch.com/videogallery/70...-EMT-testifies-to-George-Zimmerman-s-injuries
     
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    Minor head wounds bleed alot.. You should know that since you have three kids.
     
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    I really have no interest in your invective against Zimmerman I want to discuss the evidence and the law and your assertions vis-a-vis both. So once again

    Back to substantiating you assertions about the law. Post the law and explain how they support your assertion that

    1. It was a stalking
    2. Martin had a right to assault Zimmerman
    3. Zimmerman did not sustain enough injury to defend himself.
     
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    What if Trayvon was YOUR son?
     
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    Some do some don't your point being what. When the blow is sufficient to split open the skin an inch long and a 1/4" wide yes there is going to be a lot of blood and such an injury could indicate a concussion or more severe injury or their might not be any laceration at all and no visable injury and you could die later. Isn't that true?

    Post from the law that says you must wait until you head is covered more than 45% in blood before you can defend yourself.
     
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    If you had been involved in the raising of your children you would know that the smallest cut on the head bleeds alot.

    You are being hoaxed by George.
     
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    Everybody is somebodies son. Are you going to base your opinion on facts, or on emotions?

    However, IF TM was my son, I would hope that I would have raised him well enough that he would have sense enough not to physically assault someone just because they were following them. I would hope that I would have raised him well enough to know that he should find a safe place to go (like HOME) when they felt threatened. I would hope that I would have raised him well enough to know that confronting someone that was following them was NOT a good idea. I would hope that I would have raised him well enough that he would be a responsible citizen and not be in such a search for trouble that he would be suspended from school multiple times.
     
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    Yes.. I think Trayvon was frightened and never knew why he was being stalked or killed.

    At least he did the adult thing and ASKED George why he was being followed.

    Sadly there was NO way that Trayvon could have known about George's issues and delusions.
     
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    So much BS.

    Not all head wound bleed a lot. Some major head wounds do not bleed much at all. One of the most deadliest head injuries would have absolutely NO blood. You might want to look up Basal Fracture.

    However, that is no the issue. Have someone hit you in the back of the head with a piece of concrete and tell me how many stars you see. Tell me how excruciating the pain is. Tell me if you would want it to stop or if you would like to be hit in the back of the head again.
     
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    George didn't have a basal fracture.. he had two tiny cuts to his scalp.
     
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    If he was frightened, he should have ran home and not stop to confront the person he was afraid of.

    Sadly there was NO way that Trayvon could have known about George's issues and delusions.[/QUOTE]

    So, is that really how your logic works? TM was being followed and you say he didn't know George had "issues". OK, TM finds himself being followed. If someone is following him, it is for one of three reasons. 1. The follower thinks TM did or will do something illegal. 2. The follower is lost and want to ask directions. 3. The follower means to harm TM.

    If TM thought it was #3, then logic would dictate that the follower might have "issues and delusions".

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    No, he didn't have a basal fracture, but it takes only one hit of the back of the head on a solid surface to cause a basal fracture, and death is normally instant. Are you claiming that GZ needed to wait UNTIL he had a basal fracture before he could defend himself?
     
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    If George was frightened he would NOT have gotten out of his car or failed to wait for the police.

    Your racism is showing.

    George has the right to act out his idiotic cop fantasy???[/QUOTE]

    Please show me how anything I said was racist.

    I don't care if GZ was white , black, or purple. I also do not care if TM was white , black or purple. GZ was a part of a Community Watch organization. It appears he was watching and did not have any intent of confronting TM. IMO, It was TM that confronted GZ, based on the evidence I have seen. GZ was not acting out any fantasy, he was doing what he thought the community expected of him.....to provide some sort of authority figure to protect the community from crime. Up to the point where TM attacked GZ, GZ didn't do anything that most people in his position would not do.
     
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    LOL.

    1) George doesn't want to take the stand because he can't explain all of his lies
    2)O'Mara skipped the immunity hearing because he didn't want to put George on the witness stand and he knew that it was impossible to put on an affirmative defense without the defedant taking the witness stand
    3)Now O'Mara is trying to taint the jury pool by claiming that voice experts may be using junk science to determine who was screaming in the 911 tape because he can't find anyone to lie that it was George screaming
     
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    If anything I've said is even covert, then you should have no problem pointing it out to me. Or is this your way of debating an issue.....if you can not dispute the facts then discredit the opposition by calling them racist.

    You might want to look at the second sentence in my signature, since it explains quite well how I feel about people of ALL races.

    GZ's mental status is irrelevant. Had TM ran straight home......something he would have done had he been truly frightened, he would have been safe from the big bad crazy man with a gun. Instead, he decided to stop and confront/attack him.
     
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    [QUOTE="Roderick2013]Really? Maybe you should tell the boxing federation about your little theory so they can take that into consideration since they use weight to determine who fights whom.[/QUOTE]

    I told you why there are weight classes. Its about strength and the ability to muscle your opponent around. Punching power pas middleweight is largely genetics.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) of course spinks had the power to KO Tyson but he didn't have the ability to do it.

    Any of those guys ever fight above middle weight?
     
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    Yep, case closed.

    George walks....

    The End.
     
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    Back to substantiating you assertions about the law. Post the law and explain how they support your assertion that

    1. It was a stalking
    2. Martin had a right to assault Zimmerman
    3. Zimmerman did not sustain enough injury to defend himself.

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    And now more baseless conjecture on your part as you dodge and weave. You have no idea my relationship with my children and you can keep them out of further conversation and your lies about them.

    Back to substantiating you assertions about the law. Post the law and explain how they support your assertion that

    1. It was a stalking
    2. Martin had a right to assault Zimmerman
    3. Zimmerman did not sustain enough injury to defend himself.
     
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    Back to substantiating you assertions about the law. Post the law and explain how they support your assertion that

    1. It was a stalking
    2. Martin had a right to assault Zimmerman
    3. Zimmerman did not sustain enough injury to defend himself.
     
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    You don't know if he does or doesn't want to take the stand and he has no burden to explain anything.

    He has already explained it, you don't get to put words in his mouth.

    The best lab in the country stated, the FBI, stated that the audio tapes was not of sufficient quality and there was not enough solo voice of the person on it to make any such determination. THAT is the evidence the jury will hear. The burden of proof is on the prosecution to say it was Martin and not Zimmerman they have no such evidence.
     
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    He did run back to the apartment. The statement of the girl friend places him there out of sight of Zimmerman having told her several times he had lost the guy who have been looking at him. He could have gone inside and called the police or his father to tell them he was in any perceived danger. As you noted he choose different.
     
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    Yes George walks straight into Big Bubba's arms and his new prison cell.
     
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    Wrong. Self-defense is an affirmative defense. Watch the Jodi Arias trial.

    During most trials the prosecution has to prove both that the defendant committed the crime and that the crime in question.

    George already admitted that he committed the crime all the State has to do is to prove that he committed 2nd murder and with just Trayvon's clothing they have that nailed down.

    If the screams are of such poor quality why is O'Mara so afraid to allow the jurors to hear the screams and the testimony of expert witnesses?

    Why hasn't O'Mara found any experts who are willing to lie and say that it's George?

    Even during the second bond hearing Papa Zimmerman admitted that the screams sounded like George......when he was a teenager. LOL

    And we haven't even gotten to George's sealed text messages, cell phone records or journal entries.

    The evidence just keeps getting better and better for the State.

    35 to life for the child murderer and child molester George Michael Zimmerman!!
     
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    Uh no it doesn't make perfect sense, if it did he wouldn't be facing murder charges.

    Sorry, but that story doesn't fit this case. 1. The 17yr old that punched the official was larger than the official was. 2. The official never saw it coming, Zimmerman claims that he was sucker punched. Show me the last 158lb 17yr old that whooped a 205lb 28yr old man's ass and then you have an arguement.

    Already posted it.



    Last I checked "quite a bit heavier" means larger. I hope we have finally cleared that up.



    Did I or are you just naive to the situation.

    It is backed up, now let us move on.

    Yep and you have yet to show one story where one did, now this incident happens and you cats take off running claiming I told you this could happen. Give me a break.




    Well lets see, he had a gun and a cellphone. Last i checked Trayvon wasn't shot with a cellphone was he.



    Sure you have plenty of burden to show. Don't be a coward and try to run with only one incident. Surely if this happens on the regular you shouldn't have a problem find two more incidents of this happening.

    Asserted, can you feel it.
     
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