stone age Footprints:earliest Evidence of Humans in North America

Stop to ponder this.
They had to move. What did they do? Walk or ride animals? If Animals, such as rein deer, why didn't they bring them into America?
Plants to eat are not all over the place. When I was in Boy Scouts we had to earn merit badges by knowing plants to eat. But at that time they came from the Frozen north where even now humans plant gardens but those are not natural.

The rush to put humans over a so called land bridge should be proven too.

 

Lol, says the one looking at genesis for answers on how the earth was formed.[/QUOTE]
Are we hiding? Nope. We are publishing the information we find. Not hiding it. Right now, you are trying to hide our truth. Why? Study it. See what conclusions happen when you test Creationist's theories. You say you are a scientist but not acting like one.

 

Lol, we've been through these conversations many times. My stance is, nothing exists besides god, and god is love. Therefore, evil is not something to be punished, but a mistake to be corrected, which is done lovingly form lifetime to lifetime. As i've also written to you about before, my beliefs extend much further than that, but I'm not going to write them all down at the moment, as I'm busy writing a paper for my aquatic invertebrates class due next week. But I'll make time for quick arguments, lol.

 

Animal and plant population and diversity would have been much much higher. Plants to eat literally were all over the place, more than enough for the tiny numbers of humans that there were. You can't even remotely begin to compare todays world with the time of hunter/gatherers.

 

I think you are messing up my quotes with someone else, but to your point, they have been tested, many times over. I'm sure you can find all the answers you seek in any number of scientific journals.

 

Evil is a mistake to be corrected? LOL! Sounds WOK. "Jimmy, stop giving your sister drano to drink. You need to correct your behavior, okay dear?" "Okay, mommy...I love you. Sister, try some of this anitfreeze, it's orange juice!" The scorn of society, Wokeism...

 

And, when you read the journals, articles and such, each paragraph is filled with fuzzy words. Oh, these few bones could be, might be that of early humans...Oh, the universe might have originated from a singularity that went boom! Tested but never proved to be 100% factual truth. And, no, the Creationist theories have not been tested by secular scientists. They are too consumed in their own egos.

 

Yep, you heard me. The idea of some god waiting to strike down wrongdoers is utterly absurd, and makes all of existence meaningless.

 

Uh huh. Fuzzy words in scientific papers. Yet you’ll take a 1700 year old book at face value. Do you see a problem with that?

You probably don’t.

 

Pffffft! WE have evidence of human occupation dating back 60,000 at LEAST

sorry old dears but could not resist the dose of national pride

 

Hey! Don’t you know that fossils were put there by God as part of a massive joke we haven’t cottoned into yet

 

For those interested in early Australian occupation this is a good easy read

https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/the-spread-of-people-to-australia/

 

That was a good read. Yeah, you’ve got North America beat by a few 10s of millennia.

I wish some of their boats somehow survived. They would be interesting to see, though I wouldn’t expect bamboo to survive, if that is what they were made of. Seafarers back then must have been insanely brave to leave sight of shore, having no clue what was out there. Or just really unlucky to be dragged out of sight of land by bad weather, lol.

 

Ahhh...you have it wrong! He's not waiting to strike down anyone. He's giving everyone a shot at what is expected and required even if they don't get the opportunity to know this. What you are doing is what the Wok crowd does. They try to turn the blame for their faults to someone else. In this case, God. The Woke won't work.

 

You bet! It's called "Faith." The Holy Ghost is the true witness of the Bible. You find no fuzzy words in the Bible. You find fuzzy words all over scientific papers that try to give credence with their theories. And, all they are, are theories. Yet, you believe them as fact. That's where your faith lies, not with Christ.

 

There was no original sin, which was a BS concept to begin with. We are all god, little slivers of consciousness cut off from the source. We are here to experience and learn, to give creation a sense of itself, to provide the polarity that gives existence meaning. In the end, we all return to god, no matter what. In the end, every soul will have returned to perfect love.

Your story is meant to dominate and control man. The god I know encourages us to live the life we will, to make mistakes, and to learn from them.

 

My faith tells me that god has provided us the way to figure out how his amazing creation actually works, through science, and is far more beautiful and interesting than the lame story that man made up in genesis.

 

Does it really matter to anyone, when the first Americans arrived? Stop hating other people based on excrement that neither one of you can prove FFS.

They were HERE, BEFORE any of us - it doesn't take a scientist with an agenda to figure that out - and that is ALL that matters.

 

You could say that about all history. I for one love learning what the human experience was before our time. The story of the first peoples in North America is incredibly fascinating, and getting as many details as accurate as possible is something worth figuring out. And many details can be proved. Maybe not everything, but a lot can. The time they were present is one of those details.

There is no hate here. It’s a debate website, so we debate.

 

I read history every day - but exactly what year Native Americans arrived in North America has precisely ZERO impact on our lives today, and a person cannot "debate" another person's "beliefs" by incessantly belittling the beliefs of other people.

 

Science is not a belief system, it's a methodology.
Unlike scientific claims, "beliefs" cannot be arbitrated to determine which is valid because there is no objective basis on which to compare one set of beliefs to another.

 

If those beliefs are the evidence that is brought to the table, then that is what gets debated. If someone doesn’t want those points of view scrutinized, then they shouldn’t be brought up. We don’t do censorship here.

 

Its not about censorship - its about being a polite human.

 

I don’t see anything I’ve posted as being anything beyond normal debate. And is probably a lot more polite than much of the debate here. Do you think religious beliefs should get preferential treatment for some reason?

I’m all about being civil, but I don’t think anything I have said is not civil.

 

I am talking in general and if you do not perceive the condescension in way too many of the "atheist scientist" posts, then I don't know what to tell ya... it isn't likely a believer is going to fall over and become an atheist based on anything posted on a discussion forum.

Its a waste of energy, just like this conversation.