Study: Carrying a gun can make you more paranoid

I prefer the honest ones though, those that say "shove it, I likes what I likes". Its those pretending that they have bothered with the evidence that waste away my keyboard. A negative externality no less!

 

That's not what I posted. Learn to read.

Its not about how many carry, its about the publics reaction to people who carry. In most conservative states (the vast majority of the nation), people don't care. In the "progressive" states - which is where people have been propagandized into an irrational fear of guns - people tend to panic. But of course "progressives" panic over a pop tart bitten into an "L" shape and a "My Little Kitty" bubble blowing machine, because it looks too much like a gun.

 

LOL that's funny, pretending its all about evidence. You cited a post earlier which made a nationwide conclusion based on <20 events over a mutli-year period, there isn't enough events to make any conclusion.

The evidence of the USA and AUS since 1990, the FBI UCR data, the CDC data, all prove that in general "more guns = less crime" is true. Those are the facts. The gun control debate rages on because its rooted in power and control and "feelings" not public safety.

 

It is. Its a shame pro-gunners don't appreciate that.

Don't fib now, its not going to be an effective strategy.

Please provide a recent empirical source that, testing the "more guns=less crime" hypothesis, agrees with your bias. Just the reference will suffice.

There's certainly issues of bias on both sides. But its not surprising that the likes of Cook and Ludwig refer to "evidence-based gun control" and your chums do not.

 

I wont give you a middle man "source", you can go directly to the unfiltered un-spun data - go read the FBI UCR reports for the USA, then go read the Australia Bureau of Statistics crime reports and peruse their database. In the USA, in the late 1980's, firearm ownership started increasing and states and the federal govt began relaxing gun control laws, and crime rates (violent crime in total, and homicide) have decreased >50% since 1991. In 1996, AUS implemented its gun ban and crime immediately increased in a crime bubble that peaked in 2001-2002. Homicide even increased 16% by 2001, violent crime increased 33%, assault with bodily injury increased 44%. Most crime rates are still above the pre-ban rates.

More guns and less gun control in the USA resulted in less crime. Fewer guns plus severe gun control in AUS resulted in more crime.

 

Then you have only proved to me that you haven't read the evidence or appreciated the logical need for empirical methodology. No problem. Put me on ignore perhaps as I only refer to the evidence?

 

Too lazy to read the unfiltered data? Both the FBI UCR and the AUS data are on their web sites. I've read them all, I'll post the plotted data when I get a chance (I've posted it here many times before).

Until then you can go to old threads in this forum:

 

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

• In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
• Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
• Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

• Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
• During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
• Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
• Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
• At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
• Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," Free Republic, April 9, 2009.

 

Get educated. Go read the FBI UCR, and the AUS Bureau of Statistics crime reports. Or if that's just too much work for someone who claims to rely on "just the evidence", the google the issue. The data defeats you.

 

90% don't carry. 10% carry, many of the them off duty police officers. Carriers are the odd men and women out, not the progressives. Ha ha.

 

So what? It’s called choice.

 

First of all, those that legally carry are not contributing to gun violence, in fact stats show that they are less likely to be arrested than the general public.
Second, ask the people that are reported daily, if they were unnecessarily armed when they used a firearm to successfully defend themselves.

 

First of all, yes they are. They contribute by going around telling stories about how dangerous the world is, and how you need a weapon, blah blah blah, when you most certainly do not. This promotes gun sales, gun production, and produces paranoia in the minds of the weak.

 

Let's be clear, those that legally carry are not racking up gun violence stats. Please don't confuse the 14 million people with carry licenses with criminals.

 

Lets be clear, those that carry often promote guns, the NRA promotes guns, those that carry promote the idea that guns can solve a problem, the NRA promotes the idea that guns can solve a problem, a$$h*les can get ahold of guns because there have been so many promoting their sale, that people think it's a solution to there problems.

 

My, my, maybe we should just make killing someone illegal. Oh wait.

 

There is nothing wrong with promoting guns for lawful use.

 

You know what I said.

 

How does this differ from those who go around telling us how dangerous the world is and how we need more gun control laws?

 

Why do you believe guns cannot, legitimately and legally, solve problems?

 

Yes I do. You seem to think promoting guns for lawful use is bad.

 

Happens everyday.

 

You ommited Retired Law Enforcement personell, there are many "qualified" people out there now under provisions of LEOSA, that can carry in any State or Common wealth / Territory, FEDS, State, City, etc...

 

Yes, I know Dr., you've told us many times.

 

Why do you believe guns cannot, legitimately and legally, solve problems?