(sarcasm alert) Yup, let's drill that stereotyping into their poor little heads as soon as possible...afterall, school isn't about learning readin', writin' and 'rithmatic. It's the schools responsibility to make sure they know what sex they are. (sarcasm alert)
Males are discriminated against in education at every level from pre-school to post secondary education. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...t-boys/304659/ http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/sch...stile-to-boys/
FoxHastings are you like Taikoo? Do you believe gender is nothing but a social construct, and therefore a female is as likely to have a penis as a boy is to have a vagina?
Whatever you're saying, it is NOT a school's responsibility to promote sexism, quite the opposite, they should be blind to the sex of the child. . US schools aren't allowed to discriminate on the basis of sex. ...it happens though like it happens everywhere, because some teachers just can't get over their ingrained ignorant sexist attitudes.
...and you believe referring to a person as him or he or she or her is sexist??? What's wrong with being a boy or a man? What's wrong with being a girl or a woman??? Isn't finding something inherently wrong with being a boy or man or a girl or woman sexist??? I don't think there is anything wrong with being a boy, a girl, a woman, or a man.
No I don't believe that refering to males as he and females as she is wrong...as in saying, "she turned on the computer" or "he answered the question"..but there is NO need to differentiate in "good morning boys and girls", "Good morning class" is fine. Absolutely wrong to place children in lines or classroom seating according to their sex. Absolutely wrong to call on one sex or the other exclusively or excessively. If a teacher or a school does anything with their classes based on the sex of the child it's wrong.....and please don't go to the old, trite, tired, disproven, debunked garbage about ," well, then they all have to use the same bathrooms...." they don't.
old??? trite???? disproven??? debunked??? Genderless bathrooms are exactly where Swedish feminists are going with these proposals The Left Party's Viggo Hansen, a substitute member of the county council and the man responsible for the proposal, wants the office toilets to be genderless and as a result, is pushing for the "sit-down only" requirement.
As an egalitarean, I agree. I believe inequalities are wrong when those inequalities are a result of discrimination when they effect either gender or any race, but I also believe there are biological differences between men and women and also races. For example a man is likely to have a penis and a woman a vagina and an African American is more likely to have darker skin than a caucasion.
And none of those things should determine which line they stand in or if teachers call on them....... None of those things should ever determine how or what kids learn or what they plan to do with their lives.
But are they there? Sure , they might be someday but I doubt it. 40 years ago when the Equal Rights Amendment was passed in this country there were the extremist screamers who swore it would mean unisex bathrooms and it never happened. All these extremist screamers were trying to do was demonize women having equal rights....it didn't work
and, 'bogus science' - - - Updated - - - The topic of genderless bathrooms has been discussed in this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338550
Crazy how "discrimination" has become a dirty word. Discrimination just means recognizing and understanding the difference between one thing and another. It is essential for survival. Sure, there has come to be a second definition, which basically means "favoritism", but in this case, calling boys and girls "boys and girls" clearly falls under the original definition.
So do all of these...Good morning, boys and girls, blacks and whites, chinese and hispanics, and uh, lets see, one eskimo, good morning proto-gay and transgenders, good morning to theist and atheist alike..
Uh, okay. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but your little shtick would take up half the class time, so that is probably why no one ever said that to begin the school day. MY point is that the phrase "boys and girls" carries no favoritism, so I don't see any problem with it. Hell, the kids even get to decide for themselves if the teacher was referring to them as a boy or girl (since I know it's such a confusing subject these days).
"boys and girls" carries no favortism but it does carry seperatism...why would it be so hard for a teacher to say, "class", good morning class", good morning students" or just "good morning" ?? If a teacher HAS to say "boys and girls" it begs the questions why and how many other ways does the teacher differentiate between the sexes. Teachers should have a classroom filled with STUDENTS...that's all they need to know or acknowledge
I think there is no reason to have group showers and bathrooms, when I go to the gym, I get my own shower, I prefer it that way .
I agree, but you believe females are the ones who are having their minds shut down with ignorant sexual stereotyping-right??? Did you know: ADHD/drugs: Male students are twice as likely to be diagnosed with ADHD and are 2.8 times more likely than female students (and 64% of the total) to be put on drugs for this perceived disorder (source). There is great concern that boys have been misdiagnosed and overmedicated for ADHD, and that the effect has rather been to suppress the energy and nature of boys, whereas educational institutions should develop methods to redirect them to more productive tasks. Learning Disabilities: Male students are 75% of those diagnosed with learning disabilities. High School Dropout Rate: Male students are more likely to drop out of high school (9% of male students compared to 7% of female students). Literacy vis-a-vis Math Concepts: Boys are lagging behind in reading and especially in writing. In 2001 the Educational Testing Service measured that the gap favoring girls in writing concepts is six times greater than the gap favoring boys in math concepts. Source: Educational Testing Services (ETS) Gender Study, Trends by Subject, Fourth through Twelfth Grades, Figure 2-1. Cited in Misreading Masculinity by Thomas Newkirk, p. 35. School Participation: Male students are much less likely to participate in student government, academic clubs, music, the performing arts, and student clubs. As and Fs: Male students in lower education receive the majority of Ds and Fs and the minority of As. Source: Dr. Michael Gurian and Kathy Stevens, The Minds Of Boys: Saving Our Sons from Falling Behind in School and Life. San Francisco: Jossey-Bass, 2005. Scholarships and Grants: Male students are afforded far fewer scholarships on the basis of sex, and are unable to receive any government assistance if they have not registered for the draft, a limitation from which female students are exempt. Repeating Grades: By age 12, boys are 60% more likely to have repeated at least one grade. Source: Peg Tyre, The Trouble with Boys. Newsweek, January 30, 2006. Data from U.S. Department of Education. Suicides: Male students commit 80% of suicides overall and high school/college men ages 15-24 commit suicide at six times the rate of women (sources here and here). According to the American Association of Suicidology, In the past 60 years, the suicide rate has quadrupled for males 15 to 24 years old, and has doubled for females of the same age. Suspensions/Expulsions: male students in lower education are suspended twice as often and expelled three times as often as female students. Affirmative Action: Educational institutions and their regulatory bodies do not utilize or support affirmative action consistently between the sexes. When women are falling behind male students, educational institutions bring out affirmative action grants, scholarships, admissions, tutoring/mentoring services, and more, all in the name of equal representation. But when some colleges started to give male students affirmative action in admissions when their enrollments started dropping substantially below that of female students, they are investigated by groups like the Civil Rights Commission. Liking School: The number of boys who said they did not like school rose 71% between 1980 and 2001. Source: University of Michigan, Institute for Social Research, Monitoring the Future Study, 1980 to 2001. Cited in National Center for Education Statistics, Trends in Educational Equity of Girls and Women: 2004, p. 45, Figure 13: How do you feel about school? Male Role-Models: Many boys lack positive male role-models at home due to their fathers being absent or excluded from the family. This is compounded by the lack of male role-models in lower education where male teachers are a minority. In preschool, male teachers are only 1.9% of the workforce, and in elementary and middle school they are 18.6% of teachers (source). Recess: Recess periods, which are critical for boys psychosocial development, have been phased out at numerous institutions. In addition, some teachers deny students their recess privileges as a form of punishment.
...."""""but you believe females are the ones who are having their minds shut down with ignorant sexual stereotyping-right??? ...""" I don't believe I've ever posted that but if I somehow gave you that idea it is wrong. If you read my posts I don't believe I even mentioned which sex suffers more....and I don't think it should be a contest....ANY sexism harms PEOPLE. YES, males suffer from ignorant sexist stereotyping, too, I hope you're not impling that it's more important than when girls are stereotyped.... Those examples you posted could be BECAUSE OF sex stereotyping....
Are you a feminist??? You sound very knowledgeable about this subject, so I'm curious, what are some examples of females being the victims of ignorant sexual stereotyping in education???
Why aren't recess periods critical for other children's (GIRL'S) psychological development....that source must be VERY sexist.
Of course I'm a feminist since I simply believe in sexual equality, I could provide lots of examples but I'm tired and they are so many....maybe later. That's not a cop out since common sense says that this discrimination existed and still exists since sexism still exists... Nice to talk with someone who doesn't get offended at every little disagreement....
