The 2nd Amendment needs a amendment to clarify it.

I have yet to see jbander make an argument that isn't based on poll findings.
If polls were accurate, we wouldn't have to have elections, we could just use make phone calls to about a thousand people.
If polls were accurate, Hillary Clinton would be president instead of Barak Obama.

 

<Rule 2> From a thread called "New poll shows england wants its guns back""The United Kingdom is often held up as a successful example of gun control by those on the left. But a recent poll by the Daily Telegraph, one of England&#8217;s most widely-read publications, shows Britons themselves are far from sold on the laws.

In a poll asking readers what laws they would like to see introduced or changed, an overwhelming number of voters chose &#8220;repeal the ban on hand guns and re-open shooting clubs.&#8221;

&#8220;After all, why should only criminals be &#8216;allowed&#8217; to possess guns and shoot unarmed, defenceless citizens and police officers?&#8221; reader Colliemum wrote.

Here is a screen shot of the results, as of TheBlaze article&#8217;s publication: " <Rule 2>

 

Humm, I missed the Constitutional Convention, the new text, the Congressional vote, and ratification by the states, go wonder.

 

He know his efforts to bring the change he seeks to the 2nd will fail, over and over, in the most miserable ways possible -- so, he resigned himself to the fact that all he can really do is get on the internet to whine and cry,

 

from a 2007 study by Harvard School of Public Health researchers, showing the correlation between statewide firearm homicide victimization rates and household gun ownership More percentage of household with guns more Deaths by guns

 

More mindless nonsense.

 

My willingness to amend the constitution suggests a recognition that this specific change probably requires an amendment. It does not follow that I will sign on to similar amendments to every right described in our constitution. I think that gun public policy is best dictated at the state level, secondary to a very broad and diverse set of cultural and practical disparities. I have not be so convinced on issues of religious freedom, free speech, assembly or search seizure, but you can try.

 

The 14th amendment more than sorta gets in the way of that.

 

Mass shootings: There were 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015, killing 475 people and wounding 1,870, according to the Mass Shooting Tracker, which catalogues such incidents. A mass shooting is defined as a single shooting incident which kills or injures four or more people, including the assailant.

Source: Mass Shooting Tracker

School shootings: There were 64 school shootings in 2015, according to a dedicated campaign group set up in the wake of the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre in Connecticut in 2012. Those figures include occasions when a gun was fired but no-one was hurt.

Source: Everytown for Gun SafetyResearch

All shootings: Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured. Those figures are likely to rise by several hundred, once incidents in the final week of the year are counted.

Source: Gun Violence Archive,

How the US compares: The number of gun murders per capita in the US in 2012 - the most recent year for comparable statistics - was nearly 30 times that in the UK, at 2.9 per 100,000 compared with just 0.1.

Of all the murders in the US in 2012, 60% were by firearm compared with 31% in Canada, 18.2% in Australia, and just 10% in the UK.

Source: UNODC.

 

Its not uncommon that different jurisdictions have far different laws governing behavior of individuals, businesses and automobiles. Think of the hell people went through traveling before a quick google search could clear up what Los Angeles expected before they arrived in LA. Somehow, people managed to survive the fickle nature of local counties, cities and towns passing a hodgepodge of statutes and ordinances.

You did however put your finger on the solution. States get to override these independent streaks by local authorities. It will always be a balancing act between a desire for uniformity and clarity on one hand, and a desire to support local control and independence on the other hand. I don't have a strong position on whether the State legislature should manage this, or allow for some local control. It may depend on how big and diverse the state itself is. Texas may see this issue differently than Rhode Island

 

You mean a free people is not in your interest.

 

Funny how every good study shows that Gun Bubbas don't know what the truth is.....

 

Well you should go for it then....get the process started with a proposal to change the 2A on your states ballot. I'm all for following the constitution. Good luck!

 

What do the numbers FBI say?
See., that would be a HUGE increase from 2000-2013 where there was to total of 64 mass shootings (as defined by federal law) with 194 deaths.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/office...ctive-shooter-incidents-in-the-u.s.-2000-2013
So, naturally there's no reason to believe your claim.

G'head. Make up some more numbers.

 

It does not need to. You can carve an exception with either broad or narrow language, that supersedes the current dictates of the14th. The problem is getting it taken seriously, let alone passed..

 

So, a Reddit blogger is now your go to expert eh?

 

LOL he listed his sources....nuff said eh?

 

He did.
Such as it was.

 

LOL, I am not naïve enough to believe I'd have a prayer in hell. I would also like the powers of a wizard when I wake up tomorrow morning.

 

I don't imagine too many people will approve of the idea that their right t (x) is protected under the US constitution, which we will now change so the states can run roughshod over it.

 

Good enough and see you in the morning merlin!

 

Which breaks down statistically to less than two deaths, and just slightly over five wounded per recorded incident.

The statistics of the facts are simply not on your side on this argument.

 

BBC Einstein

 

The numbers vary with the funding sources and definitions...with some trackers counting an average of a bit over 4 a year...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mass-shootings-us-numbers-1.3349917

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-san-bernardino-mass-shooting-statistics-20151204-story.html

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/no-there-were-not-355-mass-shootings-this-year

The mass shooting tracker site uses a very liberal definition and has been shown to report incorrectly even by their own criteria. People tend to use the definition that supports their narrative.

 

If you're going to insult us, please try harder to sound more intelligent than the "gun bubbas" by using at least semi-correctly formed sentences.

Reading gibberish gives me a headache.