Do you still believe what you posted:"NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED INTO DOING SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO. " Still Pro-Choice?????
Can you answer the questions now?????? Do you NOW believe people should be FORCED to do their job and provide the services the job demands just like you believe women should be FORCED to have a baby they don't want? OR do you now believe what YOU posted, "NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED INTO DOING SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO", ??
Okay, back to the main point.. it is clearly stated that the abortionist is affected when they perform an abortion, well those with somewhat of the right morals. I just don't understand why so many people are for abortions when they have no idea what truly happens during them. Whats happening is a murder of an innocent child that will never have a chance at life. Why? because of a selfish decision made by someone that doesn't want to deal with the outcome and responsibility of having sex. If your situation is that horrible then give the child up for adoption. Any person with a heart AND brain would think this is sickening. ESPECIALLY if they believe in God...
Belief in the sky fairy doesn't make a better person....many christian women get abortions.... Any person with a brain would know that many babies aren't adopted (how many have YOU adopted?). Any person with a brain would know that 9 months of pregnancy, wage loss, pain, possible job loss, and a lifetime of support is not meant for everyone. Any person with a brain would know people are NOT going to stop having sex becasue YOU want them to...
Where is it clearly stated and by whom? Who is judging what are "the right morals"? People aren't "for" abortions, they're for CHOICE. You see, only the woman involved can know the entire picture and decide what is best for her situation. "Innocent child" is an emotional fallacy. "Murder" is also an emotional fallacy. It's a selfish decision to give birth, especially if one cannot properly care for the child. Choosing abortion IS dealing with the outcome of having sex, you just don't like that method of dealing. But it isn't your choice when it isn't your body involved. Women suffer much more from giving a child up for adoption than they do from abortions. Many God-believers support reproductive choice since there is nothing in the Bible about abortion. IAC, our laws are not based on religious beliefs, so if you want to try to convince someone they shouldn't have an abortion because God doesn't like it, fine, but don't be trying to make your opinion into law.
Welcome Delight. Stick around you have seen nothing with this rabidly pro-abort group. In face a few even believe that killing by abortion in the ninth month is ok. The rest are hypocrites because they want abortion legal but then want to deny a woman the right to her body because of their bias....they are anti-choice...but they don't see it. Abortion is selfish...it is murder.
OKgrannie said, Just like she said....the right morals. Do you think rape is ok? Would someone who condoned it be moral? How about child abuse? Would someone who condoned it be moral? Do you have morals? If so give us an example of what is immoral. Sit back and get ready to laugh Mdelight. Sure...they are. You are one example. You condone it, embrace it...and you want it legal for many reasons. You think pregnancy is a death sentence and abortion alleviates a pregnant woman from this death sentence. Abortion is your answer to everything....killing handicapped kids...population control. You are NOT HOWEVER FOR CHOICE. Yes or no...grannie. ARe you FOR LATE TERM ABORTION .....? If you are then YOU ARE NOT FOR CHOICE. The point of a woman owning her own body point goes down the toilet for you. YOU ARE ANTI-CHOICE, ANTI-WOMAN. Don't even bring up viability....you don't care about viability. LMAO There is no such thing as an innocent child for you.....so so sad. It is tragic that there are people who hold this position. Cold, empty no other way to describe it. "It's a selfish decision to give birth, especially if one cannot properly care for the child. Choosing abortion IS dealing with the outcome of having sex, you just don't like that method of dealing. But it isn't your choice when it isn't your body involved." And you could properly care for your children? I doubt that....how you had any is beyond me...way beyond me. You think pregnancy is life threatening and unnatural and horrible. Pregnancy is a death sentence the way you describe it. Choosing abortion takes away the child your killing a chance at life. You presume to know...what that child's life will be like. And you have no right to do this...none at all. A lot of people came from humble and terrible surroundings and make a great life for themselves. There is no perfect situation...and most people struggle at one time or another. No family is perfect. How dare you try to determine a the fate of a child. How do you know this? LMAO You have talked to all the adoptive kids mothers...in the entire world? No its horrible for you...BUT DON'T SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE. many Bible believers are really not Christian. Did you know Grannie that there is nothing in the bible about pedophelia? Now answer this one....do you think God, Christ, The Holy Spirit would condone this because it is not stated as wrong? Your a pagan so you don't get this. A clear reading of the Bible shows Gods heart. There are scriptures that attest to God knowing us before we were formed. There are scriptures that talk about the Holy Spirit in a baby. You simply do not know....your an outsider on both issues...abortion and the Bible....and God. Your position does not align in a godly manner at all...with the scriptures. You want to formally debate this I would be happy. Mdelight.....are you seeing how it is with these people? They simply love abortion...and condone killing the life in the womb.
And anyone with a brain and more importantly a heart would have empathy for the life in the womb. That is not the case with those whose position is pro-abortion.
More screaming and telling us what we think....as if we don't know what we think, lol. More judging and Bible interpretation. Nah, nothing here.
. Can you answer the questions now?????? Do you NOW believe people should be FORCED to do their job and provide the services the job demands just like you believe women should be FORCED to have a baby they don't want? OR do you now believe what YOU posted, "NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED INTO DOING SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO", ?? I never did get an answer although that's not unusual.
It is not that hard to know what you think, what your position is. I don't think your position is logical. Look at all of you on this site....not a one of you agrees on anything...especially about viability and the woman owning her body. You won't address it...in a logical way because you know there is nothing logical about your position. How about pasithea who is pro-abortion the whole nine months? What say you. Pasi is the ONLY ONE...THAT IS NOT A HYPOCRITE ON THIS...THE ONLY ONE. And neither one of you will call the other out? Why? You call us out. I do not have to bring the Bible up. In fact most the time you RPA's bring religion up. Why? Cause you won't address what the experts, what the medical schools, the textbooks, the encyclopedias say about when a human life begins. I started a thread on this.....not many RPA's...that have presented anything that contradicts the evidence given.
WhatNow!? said, I have answered this several times....several. NOW believe? Women should be forced to have the baby they conceived. WOMAN SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE THE BABY THEY CONCEIVED. BECAUSE ABORTION KILLS A LIVING HUMAN PERSON. Let me say this again. Women should be forced to have the baby they conceived. WOMAN SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE THE BABY THEY CONCEIVED. BECAUSE ABORTION KILLS A LIVING HUMAN PERSON. Let me say this again. Women should be forced to have the baby they conceived. WOMAN SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE THE BABY THEY CONCEIVED. BECAUSE ABORTION KILLS A LIVING HUMAN PERSON. Let me say this again. Women should be forced to have the baby they conceived. WOMAN SHOULD BE FORCED TO HAVE THE BABY THEY CONCEIVED. BECAUSE ABORTION KILLS A LIVING HUMAN PERSON. Let me say this again. There are some things people should be forced to do...this is one of them because it kills a human being. If the job goes against their conscience...they should not have to do it. If the job goes against their conscience...they should not have to do it. Get it? I do believe what I stated....but there are a million circumstances...and scenarios where my statement would change. Should someone be denied the right to scream FIRE...in a crowded movie theatre? NO Should someone be allowed to preach on a public street corner? Yes Should someone be able to kill a living human being? NO Should someone be able to screw five football teams in a row with no break? Yes Your just harassing me...with this question to take the focus off of your hypocritical position. You run from thread to thread like a rabid dog.....trying to find prey. OR do you now believe what YOU posted, "NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED INTO DOING SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO", ?? I never did get an answer although that's not unusual.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE] Well you finally admitted that YOU want to decide who should be forced to do what YOU want and those who YOU agree with shouldn't be forced to do anything they don't want to do....a typical Anti-Choice position. Why didn't you just say that the first time I asked ...and it would've saved you that nice calm UN-rabid post.....
Religious fanaticism? Try the mythical fanaticism of the left. They think the Birth Fierry comes to wave her magic wand over a parasite coming out of the birth canal, thus making it human. Dolts. Why even engage them in argument? My pappy always used to warn me about arguing with fools.
Well you finally admitted that YOU want to decide who should be forced to do what YOU want and those who YOU agree with shouldn't be forced to do anything they don't want to do....a typical Anti-Choice position. Why didn't you just say that the first time I asked ...and it would've saved you that nice calm UN-rabid post.....[/QUOTE] I said it over and over and over..your the one who didn't get it. Hey its fine if you stalked me....don't care. I did not say....what I want. And you did not AGAIN...answer my question. I will ask you again. Are you for late term abortion or not? Got news for ya. If you say yes.....then your not a hypocrite and you want to allow all women a choice. FOR YOU CHOICE IS THE BIG THING. FORCING SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST THEIR WILL IS BAD, RIGHT? If you say no....then your a hypocrite because YOU DENY WOMAN CHOICE. YOU TAKE AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO THEIR BODY AND YOU ENSLAVE THEM TO YOUR MORALITY. So which is it. And do not bring viability up...it has nothing to do with CHOICE...THE CHOICE YOUR HOUNDING ME ON. SO WHAT IS IT SKIPPY? A YES OR A NO. ARE YOU ANTI-CHOICE?
And as usual we have a response that doesn't address the points made .. if you disagree with them then why not answer the points made without resorting to usual pro-life evasion.,
Well you are pro-abortion, you want to protection for the life in the womb. Killing does not matter....and your only concerns in life obviously only have to do with YOU. Whats funny in all this is the fact that WE DO NOT NEED TO BRING RELIGION INTO THIS SUBJECT. WE DON'T. The morality of abortion can be decided by what science tells us. And science is clear about when a new human life starts. AT CONCEPTION. So lets leave religion at the door. Another funny thing is the fact that the religious person usually does not bring religion into the discussion...it is brought up by pro-aborts because they don't want to focus on what science tells us about life. People know what abortion does. They tell people who are against it that they are ANTI-CHOICE...then they turn around and want to deny a woman the right to get a late term abortion. If this is about choice and civil rights then how can you deny a woman (whether you think all of a sudden life starts around 20 weeks or so....) the right to abort if its against your morality? This is what the majority of pro-aborts do. They enslave the woman by denying her this right the same way they say we pro-lifers deny a woman an early abortion. No one in America is forcing you to worship God. In fact if you want to worship God and show religious views...your the one who is more than likely to take the heat. Our laws are making it harder and harder to live a life centered around God. And sooner or later the believer will have to go underground to worship...because of people like you...who obviously are threatened by people who have faith and love God. Funny that you say I want to deny people something......I bet you do too. Or are you all about choice? So I will ask the million dollar question. ARe you for late term abortion? Allowing a woman the right to kill at any time for any reason? Yes or NO If you say no......then you fit into the category you put me into....anti-choice. You would be forcing them to do something that they did not want to do. I help the poor...and I do my part. No one has to force me, it comes from my heart. How can you force someone to give when its not yours to give? Should we also force people to work so many hours a week doing stuff for what the government finds important? America is one of the most giving countries in the entire world. Our poor would be the rich in some countries. Socialism....obviously that is what you think is the answer. BAd thing to keep what you have....good thing to be forced to give it all away where the government wants it to go. And you say I am anti-choice? LOL
M-Theory - http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/string-theory-for-dummies-cheat-sheet.html M-Theory is a theory that something can be created from nothing.
Why did this string theory not happen on the moon and the other planets? LOL And it takes faith to believe this string theory doesn't it?
It did, it covers the whole universe. No it doesn't take faith to believe it, I am just pointing out that you saying something coming from nothing is unbelievable .. may not be correct. I also find it amazing that religious people also believe in something from nothing, otherwise who or what created god .. everything has a beginning.
So why isn't there life on other planets? Did the string miss everything and just hit earth? And I got news for ya. It takes faith to believe in anything....even if that faith is only in yourself.
I once debated a woman who was proabortion. I landed punch after punch as she slowly began to raise her white flag of surrender. At the very end, she turned to me and congradulated me on my debating skills and even said I should have been a lawyer. She then said that she thought I was right, but....... That was the longest "but" I had ever heard in my life. She said, "But I still think women should have the right to an abortion", and then walked off. It was then that it hit me. This is not about winning debates. The power to reach these people is far beyond my feeble debating skills, although it is fun to mock them from time to time.
How do you know there isn't life on other planets? I don't need faith to believe that the world is round. I don't need faith to believe that I am alive
Probably she was pro-CHOICE. No matter how reasonable or logical we think we are being on the question of abortion, our positions, whether pro-life or pro-choice, are mired in emotion. While you can win a debate on logic, our emotional outlook will overrule logic almost every time. You might try going beyond "mocking" people for disagreeing with you, and make an honest attempt to understand why.
