The ark and a world wide flood.

Right you are. And in an expression of the best part of science, when new information came along that disproved what was previously believed, that incorrect information was discarded and replaced with the new more accurate information. Science can grow. Religion is and will always be set(quite literally in one case) in stone. And it will try to keep other things set in the same stone(like the Christians did during the middle ages) to preserve it's own illusions.

Science and religion can co-exist, but not when you try to use religion AS science. That's because there are no "new" religious texts. They were all written back when human knowledge was a small fraction of what it is today. They will never improve. They will never update. They will never grow. Relying on them means you won't either.

 

Unfortunately, facts are very often dismissed when discussing theology, or new interpretations developed to explain said facts away. Some of the most fascinating directions come about while this is being done and supply quite a bit of entertainment. It is like a game for the mind, in that we must think of useful and accurate data to debunk the new stuff and somehow ridicule the author without getting dinged for being cruel.

 

They completely omit carbon dating eh?

http://www.icr.org/article/doesnt-carbon-dating-prove-earth-old

And I'm still waiting for you to prove me wrong.

They've found human artifacts in coal formations.

http://6000years.org/frame.php?page=stuff_in_coal

http://www.icr.org/article/7068/

 

Margot2 is right.

It's one thing to be religious.

It's another thing to be idiotic.

AA

 

For me it's just an irritant.

AA

 

You have been proven incorrect if not just plain ignorant by multiple individuals many, many times but are incapable of noting it due to the blinders you wear and the issues you have understanding basic realities. That you do not understand proven sciences is totally acceptable as many do not. However you not only do not grasp it, you oppose even TRYING to get it....this makes you out to be a purposeful mental incompetent.

 

Some people can't have faith unless they believe the fantastic children's stories.

 

It's this display of lack of knowledge that I find disturbing.

There are far too many uneducated to BASIC REALITIES individuals out there who shout out how science is the devil and how faith will save you.

FAITH....has never saved anyone.

KNOWLEDGE AND EDUCATION have saved millions.

Besides...if a GOD exists...it certainly would not want people to live in ignorance.

And if it did....it's no GOD I would want any part of.

AA

 

You're forgetting that most people who believe in a worldwide flood also believe in a talking snake, that women were created from a man's rib, that a man died, came back from the dead 3 days later, fresh wounds and all, and that a man once lived inside a whale.

Honestly, the plausibility of a worldwide flood is the least of their problems.

 

If one notices the stories in the Bible always use things, concepts and women as these were things men did not understand and feared.

The SNAKE got screwed as this is typical of mammals and humans to have genetic memory that causes fear of snakes....yet at the same time far more people have been bitten and died of RABIES trying to pet some fuzzy mammal with sharp teeth!!!

Of course only MEN would vilify WOMEN as to this day many men fear the power of attraction women have over us so naturally men wrote it was THE WOMAN'S FAULT that humanity was kicked out of paradise!!

The Whale story is up there as far as INCREDIBLE IDIOCY on the same level as a worldwide flood.

The planet Earth would escape solar orbit if that much additional water mass was added and of course it is IMPOSSIBLE for even 1 MILLIONTH of that amount of water to exist underground.

All life on Earth would die.

Microbial life would die.

Nothing would survive.

AA

 

If god can "magically" create a worldwide flood (which itself, requires a violation of the laws of physics), then there's nothing to stop him from magically violating any of the other laws of physics (including those which govern that planet's orbits).

 

Nothing in our history has ever shown to violate Universal Physics.

Sure there are certain books that make such claims....but absolutely no evidence and in reality all evidence leads to the contrary.

AA

 

If religion were concerned about evidence, it wouldn't be called religion; it would be called science.

 

If the entire world was covered in water then one would be able to find a deposited layer at the exact same layer of strata everywhere on earth. That layer would have to date back 6000 years and would have included the remains of all the animals, trees, plants, bugs and things that drowned as a result of the flood. That layer does not exist. Also, where are the fossils or bones or remains or related offspring of kangaroos in a direct line from Turkey to Australia? Ever seen a Tasmanian devil anywhere but in Tasmania or Australia? Not too many platypus fossils in India are there? The flood story is pure hogwash.