To WongKimArk: Youre not the first liberal who tried to run this game on me. You are the first to be so clumsy at it. In #28 permalink you predicted Sheriff Arpaios handling of the Tea Partys material: "Sure. Send us your crap. We'll pretend to look at it before we toss it in the trash." In #36 permalink I replied: I would take more notice of your opinion were it not for Sheriff Arpaio himself. Ive seen him on TV and he strikes me as a straightforward guy. If he says he will give the submitted material a fair evaluation in relation to Arizonas laws, I believe he will do just that. The very article you cite confirms what I said about Sheriff Arpaio. Nowhere does it say, or imply, that Sheriff Joe is going to . . . toss it in the trash.. In fact, Husseins army of dim bulbs would not have to sacrifice their credibility if they believed Sheriff Arpaio would do as you predicted. Heres the part of the article you did not post: According to the WND website, "At a one-hour meeting in Arpaio's office, the tea-party leaders presented the sheriff with a petition that was drafted after a speech by Corsi the previous night. Corsi, author of a best-selling book challenging Obama's eligibility, "Where's the Birth Certificate?" presented evidence from numerous computer-imaging specialists who believe the document presented by the White House April 27 is not authentic. The WND posting continued, "The petition calls for the sheriff to investigate the possibility that a crime has been committed against the Arizona secretary of state, who must decide whether to put Obama's name on the ballot. Arpaio said, while he will look at the evidence, "I indicated in this meeting that I will also consider whether there is a more appropriate Arzona agency to determine the document's veracity and ultimately whether the President's name can lawfully be entered onto the 2012 election ballot." http://ktar.com/category/local-news...o-clarifies-stand-on-Obama-birth-certificate/ Note that the final paragraph shows that Sheriff Joe is doing the exact opposite of tossing the material in the trash. Finally, dont be discouraged by this little setback. Hang in there. Hussein needs people you defending him.
To Smartmouthwoman; I dont know if you are aware of this, but Husseins worshipers have their own prayer ritual; they are required to sing this song whenever they see him on television, which is daily, and often (check the lyrics): [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wOQ61c1Uo8&feature=player_detailpage"]Jerry Vale - Eternally (Limelight) - YouTube[/ame]
Lottsa crap, no substance. Care to point to one tiny bitty suspicion that Bush may not have been eligible? Or Bachmann? McCain was a suspect, and it's been dealt with. If Palin's gonna run, the suspicions, if any, will be dealt with, you'll make sure of that. And guess what? It does not suck to be be a birther, you can trust me. I am one
It's their same unshakable belief in something called hope and change that has us in this mess. Not much to them smarty, if they see they can get a buck out of somebody they will believe anything...
Jeff, I really think if Obama had just handed over his B.C. for forensic examination instead of just waving it in the air at some dinner we would not have all these people sitting on the fence. Much of this has been brought on by himself and secrecy of other records as well. Refusing to be transparent had to lead to this.. While I can agree some of this is no doubt racism I do not believe it was at the very core of it, or that most people who question him are racist. Transparency would have ended most of it.
Pulleeeeze!!! Is that how you intend to salvage some shred of positive news out of the fact that Arpaio was giving you Birthers a pandering brush off just as I predicted? The man has gone out of of his way, now in the form of a formal press release, to call the WND article a lie. Corsi reported that Arpaio had "promised to investigate the authenticity of the Birth certificate." In fact he promised nothing at all. The exact opposite of tossing the material in the trash is not "considering" it before tossing it in the trash. Once again, Birthers have creamed their jeans in the irrational expectation of the victory that has eluded them completely for more than three years. When even Sheriff Joe patronizes you and then blows you off, well... that's gotta sting.
And what was the suspicion that Obama was not eligible? What generated it? What evidence was it based on?
Glad you agree that Birthers hold Obama to one standard and every other candidate and President to another standard. With Obama you demand everything, and believe none of it. With Bachmann, Perry, Bush, etc, you believe they are eligible just because they are running- heck you don't even ask them to confirm they are eligible. Oh and McCain....never asked to see his birth certificate either...oddly enough Birthers believe Congress when it comes to McCain but don't believe Congress when it comes to Obama....two seperate standards. I guess this is the Birther version of "seperate but equal" Which is why of course- it really sucks to be a Birther.
The people on the fence got off and walked away when the copy of the original birth certificate was passed around to Reporters and published on the internet for all Americans to see- and of course the State of Hawaii verified- again that he was born there. As you know of course, whatever 'secrecy of other records' that exists is the exact secrecy that every current Republican candidate is engaging in, that John McCain engaged in and that GW Bush engaged in. There are certain hard core birthers that lie and say otherwise, but again the people on the fence got off and walked away. Any person who simply had doubts and was willing to be convinced, was convinced. What we are left with are the hard core birthers- who- whether because of delusions, political motivations, racism- who knows- publicly state they need more. Some frankly are just using this issue for political purposes and don't actually believe any of this. Some are clearly nuts who I do believe sincerely believe their all of their conspiracy delusions. None of these people are open to being convinced. None of these people will be convinced by yet another level of evidence beyond what any other President has produced. My proof of that? Birthers refuse to accept the statements of two different Directors of Health of Hawaii- one Republican and one Democrat- and the Registrar of Records- a high ranking civil servant- calling them either corrupt or 'pressured'. Birthers would assume the same of any 'forensic experts'- and reject any finding other than one against Obama. In my opinion, Obama shouldn't have caved to the pressure from Trump when he produced the copy of his original BC. I don't think that President should pander to whacko movements. Luckily, he was more politically savvy than I am, and his action really killed the issue for anyone willing to be convinced.
Jeff, you are very misinformed.... People are still not positive, why are you still waving the same old flag? it is their opinion that matters,,not yours..Saying it is so Jeff just is not good enough,,Of course you could try arguing with Gallup... http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-05-13-obama-birth-certificate_n.htm In a Gallup Poll taken May 5-8, 47% of those surveyed — less than a majority — say they believe the president was "definitely" born in the United States. Another 18% say he "probably" was born here. But a third of Americans remain skeptical or unsure: 8% say he probably was born elsewhere, 5% say he definitely was, and 20% say they don't know enough to say. The poll of 1,018 adults, taken by landline and cellphone, has a margin of error of +/-4 percentage points. That's thirty three percent Jeff,,hardly a few Birthers.....I am sure there are polls with even higher numbers since Gallup favors Obama...
the last Birther 'event' 12 people showed up for, in the city of Atlanta. Are there people who chose to fantasize that President Obama was not born here. No doubt. But the only important poll was on election day where American citizens voted by a large majority that President Obama was their choice. In the almost three year since, Birther have attempted to make this an issue, culminating with Trump and the release of yet another official birth certificate. Since then crickets. There was always a significant part of the population that refused to believe that Bush was legally elected too- they were just as deluded and biased as the Birthers. Regardless though- anyone still calling for more evidence is not going to be convinced by more evidence. The ones that choose to believer that President Obama was not born here have their choice firmly planted in faith.
I guess that is pretty much correct, unless something comes out substantial,,to me it makes no difference. What speaks the loudest is his approval number...He will be gone, people do make mistakes... and he was a HUGE one...
Quote from OP: Should you read the full article youll see that Husseins SS number is covered in detail. That aspect of the eligibility question is trouble for Hussein because acquiring a SS number illegally demands hands-on participation by the person getting the number; whereas, the case can be made that any illegal activity surrounding the birth certificate was carried out by Husseins stooges out of a sense of loyalty. It looks like the SS number is heating up although I cant see Hussein being nailed on it. There are just too many government officials building a stone wall that dwarfs the Great Wall of China. Those who have the authority to do something about it would not touch it if you gave them Hazmat suits to wear. Can you imagine Eric Holder ordering a real investigation into the charges? Anyway, heres an update on where its at: Obama's Alias Harrison J. Bounel Tied To Connecticut Social Security Number Now Scrubbed Birther Report ^ | aug 20 2011 | www.birtherreport.com Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:54:17 PM by tutstar From Albert "Al" Hendershot: There has been a development as it pertains to database records for and about Barack H Obama. As we well know I am the one who discovered the Harrison J Bounel alias. Well, these records have been scrubbed from theses databases as of yesterday. All other records are gone except the records belonging to the "chosen one". Albert Hendershot's SSN Pull for 042-68-4425 (Obama) With His Notes Added to the Database Pull From Carl Swensson: Spent yesterday with a credit investigator (skip tracer) who has very highly specialized search software available to only those in the business and highly protected In March of this year he was doing a lookup of BHOs SSN number and came up with this anomaly. Harrison J. Bounel kept showing up as living at the Os and using the same SSN # ???? Also showed up as a relative of Michelles? As of yesterday, the same search yielded no reference to Bounel so here we go again, records scrubbed. This Gentleman (Albert) is working with Jerome Corsi to get this and some really dam-ning evidence concerning tax evasion on the Chicago address of the Obamas residence (Can we say Capone) out to as many as possible. Orly had one such investigator working, early on, with the SS numbers but Im not sure if she tied that together with the voter fraud documents which show multiple fictitious and famous characters living at the addresses of all these BHO residences associated with that CN SSN from across the country. I now have copies of that as well. Anybody here live in Arkansas? Have some interesting leads for you. I know that name (Bounel) has appeared before but the significance now is that it is being scrubbed as people like Albert find pockets of this info still out there in the virtual world. I do hope Jerome and Albert can put the pieces of the tax fraud puzzle together in a way thats easily understandable for the masses to understand. Good luck with that as Cook County, IL is an absolute cesspool of political corruption and does an absolutely excellent job of hiding underhanded political dealings involving land and taxes. Key here is that sliver of land Rezko turned over to the Trust Co. that owned Michelles/Barrys Chicago residence at 5046 S. Greenwood Ave that has every appearance of having avoided any taxes being paid on it. That and the fact that on the Obamas 2009 tax return it shows taxes paid on real estate when, according to records, they owned NONE. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2766707/posts
tim adams told me a couple of days ago that one of the first things abercrombie did as governor was to "clean house" at the hawaii department of health. i wonder why. he also said that chyome fukino was very nice and wasn't a liar, but her story changed, and he thinks she was pressured, about losing her job. tim also said that he is sure that "obots" (obama's internet pacmen) are on the obama payroll, as paid operatives. wouldn't be fun to see if there is any money to follow.
cook county has been that way since before i was born there in the early sixties, people have no real sense of the culture of corruption there that still festers. it's hard to explain for the uninitiated.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2814199...t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/ http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2008/1211/corruption-winds-through-illinois-politics "Since 1971, by one count, 31 Chicago aldermen and some 1000 public officials and businessmen have been convicted. “We’re the corruption capital of the United States,” says Dick Simpson, a political scientist at the University of Illinois in Chicago... " " http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2… most never get caught. isn't it funny that blago (the fourth governor to do actual prison time) was convicted because of obama's vacant senate seat...
we need a new poll... even birthers thought that the 4/27 release would end the mystery... well, that didn't happen. no new polls since the second fake.... wonder why... looks as if the conversation has picked up a bit... i should go away more often maybe.... what's next... maybe the subject won't just be censored to the sub basement by request of the obots ???... LOL
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...investigate-obamas-eligibility-president.html anybody know what happened here ?? banned after six posts ?? what's the current record ??? http://www.etherzone.com/2009/stang032009.shtml
To be honest I really think the numbers are the same with doubt, him waving that thing in the air only proved he has no intentions of letting it be looked at by a unbiased source, how frigin childish was that?? I guess that has been the one thing that has always bothered me, the lack of class this President has. It does not exist, I guess you have to be born with that. He's more street, Chicago street. On the other hand I think most people dont even care at this point, he will be out of office soon enough, and even if they had proof he was not born here they would never do anything about it,,just stall. We will just be left with his mess, and the undoing of Obama Care. Amazing, there are so many Liberals that are turning their back on this guy, they realize he was the wrong man for the job, a bit late though. I was shocked when Maxine Waters even spoke up, but lets face it if you want to have any credibility as a person with some common sense you just cant stand by this disaster any longer. Hard to believe we could put somebody in worse than Carter.
I thought you were leaving. As I correctly predicted: Your posts about leaving were a lie, the latest in your string of lies.
How childish is it to think that a man can be elected to the most scrutinized office on the face of the earth while hiding his identity? How childish is it to demand proof of one candidate's pedigree just because he looks different or have a funny name, but accept no proof whatsoever from every other candidate ever? How childish is it to demand an "unbiased" examination of a document which has already been verified as authentic by the creator of the document on numerous occasions???
Does anyone ever read Flanders mass of conspiracy madness? Nothing like citing Free Republic as a source to instill faith in accuracy....
