The End of Abortion in America is Coming Soon

abortion, within the first 3 months, will NEVER become illegal in any part of the USA

 

Firstly....she is using her own body as she desires, regardless of the pregnancy.
Secondly...I will try to clarify the question that you will be able to understand it:

In order for the developing human in her body to gain the right to live inside of her, it will be required to remove the mothers right to the body it is living within. Should the woman decide she does not want it to be inside of her she will be required to let it stay there anyway, thus forcing her to use the body she owns to keep the developing body alive. The question was, how would you suggest she be informed of her fate and in what ways do you feel said fetal rights be enforced?

 

On the contrary, it is based in science. And even according to your scientific survey, religious people believe in the science whereas the elitist academicians tend to ignore the science for the liberal cult beliefs in human sacrifice.

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Sure it will. We have to put a stop to this barbarism some day.

 

Most people are educated about life in the womb. There are exceptions such as people who deny pregnancy causes women harm , that insist a fetus is a person, that men force women to have abortions and won't if they were just "educated", that making abortion illegal will end it.


You can't honestly think that, after about 10,000 years, telling people not to have abortions will work? WHY hasn't it worked in the past?

 

""""Otherwise your splaying your legs as a woman unprotected its a choice you made, and should face the consequences if its a pregnancy since you clearly wanted to risk it.""""


Thank you, too , for once again proving that for Anti-Choicers it is all, and only, about punishing women for having sex.



Now, tell me what the difference is between an abortion because of pregnancy caused by rape and incest and any other abortion?

 

Not at all. The question is whether you get to control her body.

 

Forcing the child within her out prematurely is using force and violence against the woman. It does damage to her physical and mental health. This kind of abuse of women should not ever be permitted under any excuse. MOD EDIT>>>RULE 3<<<. Are we to also believe that they actually care about the woman? No, they see the profits from abortion on both ends, and that is all they care about. This is not about ensuring a woman's right to choose, this is about selling a lie that abusing women for sex and then forcing them to end their pregnancy to let the men who abuse them off the hook through the abortitorium. It is the antithesis of feminism and female reproductive rights.

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Or the question is does she get to control the body of someone else...the unborn child's body?

 

It was well worded, you just can't answer.

A woman does not lose control of her body because she becomes pregnant.

 

Why do so many prolife men only engage in "missionary style" sex and are certain everyone else only does too?

I gather you're Catholic-like as your logic is to rationalize outlawing contraceptives, the "resource" of "unborn future babies." But that you favor aborting birth defected fetus like rejecting unclean drinking water.

 

Either way the woman is not in control of the body of the fetus. She's just having it removed in control of her own body. She can't control it either way, can she?

 

It has worked in the past. This current rate of abortions is a historic anomaly. There is no reason to believe that rates were any higher any time in history, let alone, there is no statistical data which could prove otherwise because it would have been an impossible task to keep records.

 

No, it hasn't worked in the past.....women have been having abortions for ,if not thousands, of years.

YOU will not stop that by informing them that if they have sex they might get pregnant.....



Most people are educated about life in the womb. There are exceptions such as people who deny pregnancy causes women harm , that insist a fetus is a person, that men force women to have abortions and won't if they were just "educated", that making abortion illegal will end it.

 

I don't understand this poorly worded question: "How will you manage to remove an adult humans rights to live in order to instill them on something incapable of using them?"

Does anyone else not understand this or is it just me? Please feel free to rephrase this idiotically worded question which makes no sense.

 

Just you.

 

Whatever happened to the liberal ideals of freedom to do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt someone else? Well, abortion hurts the unborn.

Once again, if she is pregnant, making her unpregnant doesn't equate to control of her body. Many women have complete control over their bodies throughout their pregnancy. And being pregnant is a natural part of female reproduction and can hardly be portrayed as a harmful event. Long term injury or death is a rare exception, not the rule.

 

It is painfully obvious that you do not intend to answer the questions posed to you, or are incapable of doing so.

Have fun stormin' the castle.

 

I don't think so. Abortion is a major operation and it takes skill and tools that are not available to the general public.

Just because you say it is so or would like to believe it is so doesn't make is so.

I don't think that abortions were common at all in ancient times.

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You can't explain it so apparently you too.

Well you can't explain what it means obviously nor can you reword it so that it makes sense.

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Which question specifically would you like me to answer or which one(s) have I failed to answer?

 

Your denial of what a woman's body endures from pregnancy doesn't make it untrue. You are not a doctor, you have never performed an autopsy, you are not a scientist and when presented with the scientific and biological facts of what happens to women when pregnant you just deny them. ....that doesn't mean you're correct !!!! Denying something doesn't magically make it real.

It used to be "natural" to just die from cancer....you think no one should seek medical care because getting cancer is "natural".....

 

Actually, you are assuming facts not in evidence when you claim abortion numbers increased from decriminalization. All you can show is that LEGAL abortions increased. Legal abortions increased in the same numbers that illegal abortions decreased.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-a-grimes/the-bad-old-days-abortion_b_6324610.html

Abortion isn't new

Abortion has been widely used in America since its earliest days. In the 1950s, estimates of numbers of illegal, unsafe abortions ranged widely, from 200,000 to 1.2 million per year. The methods used were often ineffective and dangerous. Desperate women were driven into the back alley, where they endured danger and abuse, sometimes sexual......

Septic wards

Every large municipal hospital in the U.S. had a "septic ward," filled with women suffering from infections after these interventions. At Bellevue Hospital in New York City from 1940-1954, more than 7,000 cases of incomplete abortion were treated, and a third were complicated by infection.

 

When have I denied what a woman's body endures from pregnancy?

Millions of women give birth in the United States safely every year.

No I am not a doctor, are you? Of all the women I know, I do not know of a single one who has been harmed by their pregnancy. I do know of at least 2 that became infertile, involuntarily sterilized after having abortions. Because they exercised their "choice", they never were able to bear children. That is sad. That was never their intention. One is childless, the other adopted one child.

Yet, you refuse to acknowledge the physical and psychological damage abortions do to women.

I know lots of women that regret having abortions, I don't know one who regrets having a child.

Cancer is an illness that should be treated, pregnancy is not cancer.

 

I will try this again, but simplify it even more for you.

Dem womenses gots da lil' baby things in dem an makin' dem lil' babies better'n her dun meens she aint all dat portant no more. Lil' bay gets ta tell her whatn she has ta do. Hows we gonna make her do what it says.

 

You have always denied pregnancy has adverse effects on women. You deny this:

Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:
&#8226;exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
&#8226;altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
&#8226;nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
&#8226;heartburn and indigestion
&#8226;constipation
&#8226;weight gain
&#8226;dizziness and light-headedness
&#8226;bloating, swelling, fluid retention
&#8226;hemmorhoids
&#8226;abdominal cramps
&#8226;yeast infections
&#8226;congested, bloody nose
&#8226;acne and mild skin disorders
&#8226;skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
&#8226;mild to severe backache and strain
&#8226;increased headaches
&#8226;difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
&#8226;increased urination and incontinence
&#8226;bleeding gums
&#8226;pica
&#8226;breast pain and discharge
&#8226;swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
&#8226;difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
&#8226;inability to take regular medications
&#8226;shortness of breath
&#8226;higher blood pressure
&#8226;hair loss or increased facial/body hair
&#8226;tendency to anemia
&#8226;curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
&#8226;infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
&#8226;extreme pain on delivery
&#8226;hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
&#8226;continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:
&#8226;stretch marks (worse in younger women)
&#8226;loose skin
&#8226;permanent weight gain or redistribution
&#8226;abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
&#8226;pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
&#8226;changes to breasts
&#8226;increased foot size
&#8226;varicose veins
&#8226;scarring from episiotomy or c-section
&#8226;other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
&#8226;increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
&#8226;loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
&#8226;higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
&#8226;newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:
&#8226;complications of episiotomy
&#8226;spousal/partner abuse
&#8226;hyperemesis gravidarum
&#8226;temporary and permanent injury to back
&#8226;severe scarring requiring later surgery
(especially after additional pregnancies)
&#8226;dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
&#8226;pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
&#8226;eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
&#8226;gestational diabetes
&#8226;placenta previa
&#8226;anemia (which can be life-threatening)
&#8226;thrombocytopenic purpura
&#8226;severe cramping
&#8226;embolism (blood clots)
&#8226;medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
&#8226;diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
&#8226;mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
&#8226;serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
&#8226;hormonal imbalance
&#8226;ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
&#8226;broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
&#8226;hemorrhage and
&#8226;numerous other complications of delivery
&#8226;refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
&#8226;aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
&#8226;severe post-partum depression and psychosis
&#8226;research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
&#8226;research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
&#8226;research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:
&#8226;peripartum cardiomyopathy
&#8226;cardiopulmonary arrest
&#8226;magnesium toxicity
&#8226;severe hypoxemia/acidosis
&#8226;massive embolism
&#8226;increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
&#8226;molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
(like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
&#8226;malignant arrhythmia
&#8226;circulatory collapse
&#8226;placental abruption
&#8226;obstetric fistula
More permanent side effects:
&#8226;future infertility
&#8226;permanent disability
&#8226;death.












Just because women deliver babies safely does not mean they do not suffer the above effects.


I am not a doctor but I believe what scientists and doctors say about the effects of pregnancy on women because THEY DO KNOW and you don't.


I doubt very much that you "know" lots of women who regret their abortions....and it doesn't matter anyway. IF a woman regrets her abortion that doesn't mean that NO other women should have abortions.

You claim abortion leaves physical and psychological damage but deny that 9 months of pregnancy and childbirth don't!!!!

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The earliest abortions are as complicated as taking a pill.