The end of exponential growth: The decline in the spread of coronavirus

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    A new study done by an Israeli mathematician and professor shows that coronavirus infection rates follow a similar pattern regardless of strict social distancing measures.

    He found that all countries experience a similar trend: The virus arrives, peaks in the sixth week, and then flattens.

    This is true for countries that imposed harsh lockdowns and countries that did not.

    In other words, the utter hubris of extreme "social distancing" - a totally unproven, untested, and radical strategy that was invented only a few months ago - has been exposed by the microorganism's unwillingness to play by human rules.

    Still, no amount of evidence will ever sway the doomsday cult. They will never admit that they are wrong, that they plunged the global economy into a recession based on nothing but hysteria and speculation, and that they've possibly ruined freedom forever.
     
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    It's no different than the over-reaction to 9/11. 4,000 people died and we spend over $3 trillion dollars and killed hundreds of thousands of people to try and pretend it made us safer.
     
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    Yup, too bad Clinton didn't take out Bin Laden when given the opportunity. I know what Trump would have done.
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like you lean in Trumps direction on this issue.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    No disagreement there.
     
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    Westerners in general, but Americans in particular, are consumed with a neurotic fear of death. Uncertainty induces a psychological paralysis in many of them. For these reasons, westerners are no longer the freedom-loving people they once were. Now they are a people obsessed with "safety" and "security", with freedom being more of an afterthought. As a result, we see western societies morphing into fascist police states. Until recently, this transition was occurring incrementally. But with the arrival of this virus, the transition into a full-blown fascism has happened almost overnight. The concept of rights and liberty is effectively dead now. And once forfeited, freedoms are almost never given back voluntarily.
     
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    Absolute bobbins! Compare the death rates between Germany and the UK. The UK applied 'social distancing' after a much higher death toll. As it delayed, using 'free market economics' to justify its inaction, it has also ensured that the lockdown will go on for longer than Germany.
     
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    I see you have no response to the substance of the study in question. None whatsoever.
     
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    This post makes no sense as Singapore is reporting the second wave of the virus, and it is worse than the first wave they experienced.
     
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    Just death tolls, unfortunately.
     
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    much more than 3 Trillion, Trump said the Middle East wars was over 8 Trillion.... though I think may be even more than that

    in this case many more will die, and we will spend at least that much again
     
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    This is the point in the thread where they start posting the "death counts" over and over.
     
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    the problem I see with the shut down was the states that were near zero, gained no herd immunity and are now in the same state they were before the shutdown

    the goal was to keep the curve at a manageable level to not overload the medical community, not eliminate it

    if very few got infected in a state during the shutdown, those people are still vulnerable when we reopen

    now, there is one other possibility, these states got it earlier than reported, like in December or earlier.... of course that would mean the Trump task force had the wrong data and made a bad recommendation based on the data they had at this time, as it would have been invalidated by this new data
     
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    Lovely example of right wing propaganda to derive irrational 'free market policy'
     
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    Hopefully this means the disease will be over with shortly. But without a vaccine? Probably not.
     
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    Without social distancing, you can expect disaster as the virus occurs at the same time as flu. But heck, let's not worry. Right wingers say things are sweet, they couldn't be wrong...
     
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    Has not this “study” from Israel already been debunked. Israel has the same kind of conservative ideologues as does the US. With the same less than realistic, less than honorable rhetoric.
     
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    Except we did not shut down the economy. Just flights, for a time.
     
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    Yep, you spent a lot more effort killing people who had nothing to do with 9/11
     
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    Right. I won’t deny that and unfortunately if these protests continue going into quarantine in the future might be harder to do.
     
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    This is what I'm afraid of, if this Israeli professor is right. You think the likes of Whitmer will return to the American Republic, after enjoying her newfound power status? Hell no.
     
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    Whatever. Dont know why I even bother. Waste a keystrokes.
     
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    So quarantine is going to happen more regularly? Maybe like a quarantine season?

    it won't happen again. The people will not fall for it next time.
     
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    Until we have a vaccine yeah. We’ll see flare ups of the disease for years to come.

    And yeah, that’s the fear.
     
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    No more quarantining healthy people. It won't happen again.
     
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