the fetus is like the modern-day slave

Under slavery the Negro was brutalised and denied personhood. Now it's the fetus.





The abortion-lobby seeks to make the fetus the woman's slave.
Abortion is the Liberal version of racism— but so much worse!!


Abortion is a silent injustice. What is the true cost of a woman being "liberated" ?
Are they liberated to have sex with whomever they choose now without any risk whatsoever of pregnancy?

How many fetuses must be sacrificed on the altar of "women's rights" ?

 

Ah, now we see what really bothers you! Women can have sex with whomever they choose without being forced to endure a punishment pregnancy.

 

There is still a punishment. It is just that these women dump it onto the fetus instead.
Kind of the opposite of Christ on the cross taking on all the sins of the world for the sake of sinners, if you think about it.

 

You can't punish a fetus or anything else without a brain. If you don't know you are being deprived of something or made to endure something, how can it be a punishment?

 

The fetus does have a brain. Just because it is not fully developed does not take away ones humanity.
This is basically the same sort of argument slave owners used to justify slavery, that the Negro had the brain of an animal. It is easy to justify injustice by dehumanising the victim, especially when you have the perception that their brains are inferior to yours. Besides, I thought that Liberals were against mistreatment of animals. Where does all that empathy you have for animals go when it comes to the fetus??

It is not okay to kill a person while they are sleeping or unconcious, is it? Besides, I believe that in many abortion situations the fetus suffers, in some form or another, for the short time its body is being violently ripped apart. The subject of when the fetus can begin to experience pain is still controversial. But even if the fetus cannot yet feel pain, I submit that the fetus is still aware at some level of its surroundings and body.

 

At least a black person can walk, talk, think, and be productive. A fetus cannot do either. It deserves no rights whatsoever.

 

Bizarre and insulting argument.

Nonsense.

 

That is simply not possible. You are attributing qualities to a fetus that it simply cannot possess.

 

What kind of slave labor does a fetus do for its owner? lol

 

You're absolutely right. It seems rather that the woman is doing all the work...hmm. I guess that's a failed analogy for the lifers.

 

Seems to me that lifers want to force women to be slaves to their fetus masters!

 

No, a fetus is NOT like a modern day slave - an ACTUAL modern day slave is like a modern day slave. There are more slaves today than any time before in history.

Fail. In the cartoon is what appears to be a fully developed baby, a fetus at the stage of development typical for an abortion is tiny. The reason for this is that pro lifers have to deliberately abstract their argument to give the impression that people are just wantonly aborting healthy, fully developed babies when nothing could be further from the truth.

 

The fact that another human being is smaller than you does not take away its humanity. Is a little 1 year old infant less human than an adult?
Humans come in all different types of shapes, colors, and sizes.
Do you realise how small the newborn babies are from an African forest pygmy?



While slave masters used the victims skin color to justify abuse, supporters of abortion are using the victims physical size as an excuse.

22-week old fetuses are sometimes prematurely born and survive, and they are only the size of a papaya.

This site gives amusing examles of how big fetuses are at different points in their development:
http://pregnant.thebump.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-tools/articles/how-big-is-baby.aspx

Just because a fetus may be very small does not mean it is not surprisingly developed. The toes and fingers become distinct at only nine weeks, when the fetus is only the size of an olive.




Here's a fetus at 19 weeks, looks like a baby to me:

 

I don't actually give a crap about it having hands or feet, people do not think and feel with their hands and feet. The reason you mentioned its hands and feet is because you're trying to trigger an emotional reaction from me to irrationally sympathize with with this undeveloped, tiny lump of cells that has little in common with me in terms of emotional and mental development, or indeed even self-awareness.Your argument relies heavily on appeals to emotion (and poorly constructed ones at that), hence the references to the abstract concept of humanity.

I don't believe in souls, so I don't believe any supernatural "humanity" binds me to an undeveloped pile of cells. "Is a one year old less human than an adult?" Genetically, no - but the same thing could be said for an individual sperm. So why aren't you campaigning to save every sperm? The label "human" in extremely arbitrary and does not have any bearing on the worth or value of an organism.
I value a baby more than a fetus because it is much more highly developed emotionally and mentally, and is self aware.

 

Oh, are 1 year olds now being aborted by their pro-choice slave masters? lol
Or what's the relevance of this supposed to be?

Yes, 1 year olds have less rights than adults, they are not allowed to vote, sign contracts or buy cigarettes, for example.
I should add that this has nothing to do with body height...

 

It's interesting how the part of the Liberal's brain that feels empathy immediately shuts off when it comes to abortion.

 

It is interesting how rightwingers' brains shut down altogether when it comes to abortion.

 

Does the part of your brain that feels empathy shut off when it comes to a sperm's rights? No? Why not?


And I'm not a liberal, I'm a communist

 

Aside from the fact that slaves are cognitively able, a nervous systemless fetus is not.

 

so um how is a fetus not being a person incorrect?

 

so can the undead unborn fetus understand what the black guy is saying any more than the cloud there sitting on?

 

Yes, because apparently everyone speaks the same language in heaven. Whereas in the womb, the unborn baby has not had time to learn the english language. The baby can't even practive talking in the womb because there's no air!

The fetus does not begin reacting to sound until about 13 weeks. And it is not until 16 weeks that the little bones that constitute the baby's ear drums begin to solidify. Obviously the baby cannot really hear things very clearly before this. The ears are already there, it is just bones take a long time to grow. Let me ask you this: How long would it take you to understand Chinese?

Maybe we should abort the deaf, and people who can't speak english. What about feral children that were never taught by adult humans who to speak any language?

How is a Negro not being a person incorrect? How is your biggotry towards the fetus any different from that of a slave master?
The fact that slaves spoke poor and uneducated english was just one more proof to these slave masters that the slave was sub-human, and that "its" life wasn't really worth anything.

 

Even if the fetus was considered a person no person has the right to use another person's body for their own survival against that person's will. It is wrong to think that we can just force people to give up parts of their own body to sustain the life of others.

That is where this analogy completely falls through slaves were not inside another person's body and using their organs and causing potential damage or risk to that person's life. They were already born human individuals with functioning minds, thoughts and feelings. A fetus is none of these things.

 

so the undead fetus has a developed mined capable of having a conversation it just hasn’t had time to learn any yet your saying

Well black people can still think just like any 1 else being black is not an obstacle to that at all

A fetus doesn’t seem to be there yet

 

I thought I had already debunked this argument, and clearly explained why it is perfectly reasonable to force the woman to give birth to her baby. In those threads, the only argument you could fall back upon was your insistence that the fetus was not a fully human life worthy of living.

I thought I had already debunked this myth too. Pregnancy is no more detrimental to a woman's health than abortion; the only exceptions are in very rare circumstances, and even then abortion is almost never actually "medically necessary".

Didn't you read my thread: "Late-term Abortions and the REAL reasons they are performed" ? How do you justfiy all these late-term abortions? Or are you trying to make an argument that a "fetus" that can survive outside the womb (with the help of an oxygen tank and incubator) is not really a baby with thoughts and feelings? Sorry, not all abortions are done on zygotes and blastocysts.