The Fulton CO case goes on.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Fake news. Easily produced.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    You're just repeating yourself, nothing new added to your argument, dismissed.
    Weasel words/posturing, not an argument.
    More posturing and irrelevancy. I claimed that Trump is a Putin Puppet. I think that fact has been proven many times.
    drivel.
    Tawdry cheap shots diminishes your credibility, you can't be taken seriously
    Trump is ahead by 1.7, which is in the margin of error, that number shrinks when you take out the outlier polls.

    Given the issues of abortion, and other items Republicans will lose on, I doubt Trump will win.
    You can if there are fake electors , forged documents to the government, intimidation, pressuring election officials long after votes were certified, Witness tampering, obstruction, Solicitation of Violation of Oath by a public officer. Impersonating a public officer. Forgery in the first degree. False statements and writings to the government, etc, etc etc., just might persuade a jury, we shall see.
    if they committed insurrection/sedition against the constitution, which I think he definitely did, he could conceivably be barred, but the SCOTUS didn't want to deal with that hot potato.

    The only 'idiot trying to rig the election' is donald trump, where Repubs are trying ti install election deniers in state offices dealing with the elections.
    Your trash talk is impotent.

    The criminal, fraudster, pervert, is Donald Trump. Every time he opens his mouth stupid comes out.
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

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    fake comment, dismissed.
     
  4. garyd

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    Dude we've seen all this crap, then you find out that there was no there there and it was just a few dozen people telling the judge and his people that they suck at there Job.
     
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    It's based on a recording in which we ALL heard the Orange criminal attempting to overturn the results of a democratic elections. Sad that there are people in this country who excuse a criminal who attempted to overthrow our democracy so he could become a dictator.
     
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    Your explanation is moot.
     
  7. Zorro

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    Fake News. See, that's your problem. You think thoughts and statements that you view unfavorably are crimes. Now if you actually DID something caused harm or loss to someone's business, and your actions were a crime, then you could be held criminally liable for the violative behavior or criminal act. And there could be circumstances where you could be held civilly liable.

    And the Left's pretense that disagreeing with them a crime doesn't appear to be selling the American People any better than Bribed Joe's 107 minutes of shrieking.

    Lawfareland Gets Nervous

    It is absolutely despicable to the balance of the American People that too much of the Left is trying to put the election into the hands of a Court rather than in the hands of the voters. It's a slap in the face to the American People, it drips with disdain that they are more and more heartily returning to these vile anti-Democracy Leftists.

    The Despicable America Hating Scum trying to rig the election for Bribed Joe including some; 'elected Democrats, Biden DOJ-appointed prosecutors, legal activists, and others who have filed criminal charges and lawsuits against former President Donald Trump have crafted a multiple-redundant line of attack. If one case fails, there is another to back it up, and if that case fails, there is another to back it up, and so on. There are four criminal cases against the former president, all charging him with felonies. At the beginning of this week, there were 91 felony counts against Trump, but a judge in the Georgia prosecution threw out some counts, so the total number of felony counts Trump faces now stands at 88.'

    'That is a lot of redundancy. All it takes is for Trump to be convicted on a single count in a single case for Democrats and their allies to make a million campaign ads branding President Joe Biden’s challenger a “convicted felon.” The Democratic lawfare team, and its cheerleaders in the media, is desperate that at least one Trump trial start and reach a verdict before the Nov. 5 election.'

    'But the anti-Trump team has been getting more and more nervous these days. It’s worried about Supreme Court review of a Trump defense motion claiming immunity to federal charges in the 2020 election/Jan. 6 case. It’s worried about the federal classified documents case bogging down in the minutiae of handling millions of documents. It’s worried the Georgia state case will sputter in the aftermath of misconduct between top prosecutors. The only case that gives it real hope is Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case charging Trump did something illegal eight years ago in paying for a nondisclosure agreement with porn star Stormy Daniels.'

    'When all the other cases were stumbling, Bragg’s case moved forward, scheduled to start trial 10 days from now, on March 25. On Bragg’s shoulders rested a lot of resistance hopes to prosecute Biden’s main opponent successfully before the election.'
     
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  8. Zorro

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    'But now there’s a problem with Bragg’s case, too. On Thursday, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office said it would be open to a Trump request to delay the start of the trial for 30 days. (The Trump team wants 90 days, and a judge might pick another number.) The reason has to do with a third party — the Justice Department, in the form of the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. You might recall that SDNY, as they call it, had previously investigated the whole Daniels case and decided against charging Trump with anything. It did not change that decision when control of the Justice Department shifted from Trump to Biden.'

    Trump has every right to discovery, and his team made a timely request for the information, nearly a year ago when charged.

    'Trump has been trying to get SDNY to turn over documents from its investigation — the one that resulted in no charges against Trump. Now, it turns out SDNY waited a long time to hand them over. Not too long ago, it handed over 73,000 pages, and then, on Tuesday afternoon, just days before the trial was scheduled to begin, SDNY “produced approximately 31,000 pages of additional records,” according to Bragg’s office. Today, SDNY informed Bragg it’d be turning over 15,000 more records.'

    Oh Gee, for events that happened more than 7 years ago, and charges filed nearly a year ago, a week and half before the trail these vile clowns want to finally the turn over the long ago requested 130,000 pages of legal documents? These people have no business being in the offices they hold or exercising the authority that the American People expect them to use, justly.

    'The anti-Trump legal talking head community is up in arms, angry at the Southern District of New York for the delay. “WTF, SDNY?” posted left-wing legal scholar Laurence Tribe. “What on god’s green earth were the Southern District federal prosecutors thinking in turning this over so late?” asked Andrew Weissmann, the former Mueller team prosecutor. “If I’m the Manhattan DA…I’m LIVID.” The anti-Trump group smells some sort of rat trying to delay the Trump trial, but it doesn’t know what it is.'

    'In any event, the comforting certainty that at least one Trump trial would start soon has suddenly disappeared. Meanwhile, there are new worries about the Georgia case. Yes, the judge on Friday allowed Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to stay on the case, provided she gets rid of her' sex toy lawyer 'Nathan Wade as the chief prosecutor. But some of the same voices expressing anger about the Manhattan case appear to be losing confidence in Willis.'

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  9. Zorro

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    'So it’s fair to say Lawfareland is a little jumpy these days. With Biden trailing Trump in many polls, and the election getting closer every day, it’s frantic for a court, any court, to convict Trump of something in time to help Biden win. Some are pointing fingers at the Biden Justice Department for not indicting Trump earlier. Some are mad at the Supreme Court for not smoothing the way for a quick Trump trial. Some are mad at the media for not being even more anti-Trump.'

    They are hell-bent on convicting Trump on at least one charge, any charge, and ordering him to jail before the election rig the outcome for Bribed Demented Shrieking Joe.

    They might blow all 88 charges.
     
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    It absolutely did not. There were 41 charges, and so the dismissals amount to a 14% reduction, hardly effecting the core of the case. Moreover, the REASON for the dismissal ONLY had to do with the vague wording of the charge, which he said the prosecutor could reinstate the charges merely by adding more detail to the charges sufficient that the defense would be better able to provide a defense. THAT was the only issue for the dismissal, which can easily be remedied, if Fani feels that those dismissed charges are critical to the overall case.
     
  11. Patricio Da Silva

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    Please link to your sources in the quotes, and it's courtesy to either italicize them or use the quote mechanism to green the text. That way it's easier to distinguish who is writing what.
     
  12. Zorro

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    No doubt about it.

    In fact, by nearly 4 points in the top battle grounds that will decide the election.

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    The future is always uncertain, but if the election were today, Bribed Joe would lose, and lose badly.
    Crap charge, already thrown out.
    Disputing an election isn't a crime and doesn't bar one from office.

    It's a shame that you all spent the time you had, when you could have been working to serve the American People, completely fixated on Trump and Lawfare rather than bettering the lives of the American People.

    Dems and Demented Joe should not have lit the hell fires of Inflation: Inflation Numbers Keep Economic Concerns Front and Center

    Dems and Demented Joe should not have urged illegals, rapists, killers, terrorists, and cannibals to illegally surge our border.

    Record 3.2 Million Expected To Cross Border Into U.S. This Year
     
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    You might want to look up the RICO Act. Whether it applies to Trump or not... we shall see at the end of his Georgia trial. My point is that "opinions" (if you want to call it that) like the example I gave CAN certainly be illegal.
     
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    The hyperlink is right in my post.

    Lawfareland Gets Nervous
     
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    Maybe @Zorro thinks he can impress us with plagiarism.
     
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    No. It's not a crime to say "nice business you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it." Now if you committed a criminal act to harm a business, you could be held to account for your violative behavior. And that's much of the Left's problem. They are desperately trying to criminalize free thought and speech under the idea that if they don't like it, it's a crime.

    If you want to continue to hold this position despite all the disconfirming real world evidence, by all means, knock yourself out.

    If you have a criminal conspiracy to deal drugs, and dealing drugs is a crime, you can reasonably bring a RICO case for a conspiracy to deal drugs.

    Or for prostitution,
    Or to engage in retail theft.

    But disputing an election is not a crime. Fani tries to tap dance around that in two different fashions and both fail.

    If you want to intelligently examine why, read the information at the link, or not, I could care less.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-flaw-in-trump-s-georgia-indictment/ar-AA1foMGR
     
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    Reread the comment, you missed the point entirely. The ONLY reason they were dismissed was that there weren't enough details in the charges to give defense counsel opportunity to provide for an adequate defense on those charges.

    The judge said that all Fani has to do is revise the charges to add the necessary details, then they could be reinstated.

    Your point, therefore, is moot.
     
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    FACT, Trump incites his thuggery base to deluge threats to anyone who opposes him, judges, clerks, election workers, including repubs and dems. Bowers, Raffensperger, Engoron, Chutkin, Ruby Freeman/Shaye Moss, have testified to this fact.

    Suck?

    Yeah, right:

    threat.jpg

    THe above is a screenshot, in case you didn't watch the video, below:

     
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    mockery is not an argument.

    Fail
     
  20. Zorro

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    Fake news. I provided the link and the quoted material is set off with quotation marks. To the best of my ability, I fully complied with TOS. I demand that you retract your false charge against me, and that you wear a MAGA hat for 3 days.
     
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    Those polls are deceiving. how people will actually vote will be far less extreme.

    I assure you, Dems will crawl over glass to come out against Trump.

    Your polls do not tell that story.

    FYI, undocs in the US have, on the whole,. less crime than natural citizens.

    So, your trash talk and right wing echo chamber tropes are impotent.
     
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    Your link is fairly well buried, hard to find, and you could have done better, such as italicize your quotes or use the quote tags.

    Yeah, you 'complied' just like Weasel Trump has been getting away with screwing people for years.

    WE know your kind.

    Best of your ability? Don't make us laugh.

    You trash talk, spin like crazy, and link to trash right wing sites like zerohedge, gateway pundit, etc.

    Washington Examiner, I'll accept.
    National Review, I'll accept
    WSJ, I'll accept.
    CS monitor, I'll accept.
    Any of the American Journals of Record, I'll accept.

    Stick to those if you want to be taken more seriously
     
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    Sure. Statements you don't like are "crimes".
    Polls that show that Dems campaign is ineffective are 'deceiving'.
    So what? You can't win with just Dems.

    upload_2024-3-16_13-44-11.png

    Trump leads with independents by 14 points.
    They aren't "my" polls.
    We aren't the ones trailing on most of the metrics.
     
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    Are you still lost on how often your claims turn out to be wrong? Why you have confidence in your sources is certainly not because they have proven reliable. You've blown nearly every major issue since Trump rode down the escalator.

    I don't give a damn what you 'accept' or don't.

    You are free to use whatever sources you like, as am I, but to be perfectly clear, given your track record with accuracy, your recommendations are far more of counter-signal.

    Besides, no source should be taken too seriously, always test the information against real world facts, rather than as you do, you test against the narrative which leaves you able to test the narrative against real world facts.
     
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