The Human Cost of illegal immigration.........

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by El Cid, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    As long as one American that wants a job cannot find one then we do not need those workers.
     
  2. zbr6

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    Man, no matter how you want to spin it if these invading degenerate pieces of filth weren't in America they wouldn't be able to commit rapes here.

    Now will you please stop supporting them?
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

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    Wouldn't all this be easier if there was a legal method for them to come here? Because right now there isn't. You must have immediate family to live here or have an extraordinary skill. And even then you may wind up waiting decades for a green card.

    America is a great country. I'd want to live here too. And if I had no family here and no special skills or if I simply didn't want to wait decades for a green card I'd hop the fence too. Obviously I'd prefer to come here legally but when you have no options you have no options.

    If they were here legally they'd be easier to track. They wouldn't have to work under the table. They wouldn't be out competing low skill jobs because they can accept less than minimum wage.
     
  4. Liquid Reigns

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    A GC has no bearing on entry, a GC is what the get when they apply from within the US to become LPR or citizen. They enter on a visa, for non-skilled it is the H2A and H2B. The H2A has no annual cap. Obviously there are legal ways for them to come here.

    All you are showing is that you don't know how our immigration system works. They don't receive GC immediately, they wait for and receive a GC from inside the US after they enter legally on a visa and apply to become LPR/citizen..

    They aren't working under the table, most have jobs and are receiving employee checks with tax deductions. Thus they are receiving at a minimum minimum wage. IRS knows where a large portion of them are.
     
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    Any sources other than World Net Daily?
     
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  8. zbr6

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    This does not change my resolve.

    The blame for these dead children will lay at the feet of the liberals who have created the atmosphere that encourages Brown parents to push their kids across our borders so that they may follow them and collect welfare.

    Every sovereign nation has the right to defend itself from enemy attack and not only are we being attacked, but we're being invaded and have been for decades.

    South of Texas it is a known fact that illegal entry into America is encouraged by Democrats and that they have created an incentive to do so.

    Using our military to combat the invasion will remove that incentive and thus, as time goes on, fewer and fewer invaders will dare attempt to cross.

    And on a side note might I ask where your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing compassion is for the millions of American children that these illegal invading pieces of filth rape molest and assault every year?

    Why do you favor a Brown invader over your own people?
     
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    Most?

    Oh the it's OK.

    How come anyone else entering the country, even for a visit, can be denied entry, because of a previous conviction but Mexicans who have committed crimes aren't even asked?

    That's discrimination and favoratism. I, a Canadian and American citizen get harangued with such questions, but it's OK to let 500,000 unskilled peasants to flow in, unobstructed?

    I do not care that "most" of them are not criminals, if that is you leave out the fact they are committing a crime by crossing illegally. You are knowingly and willingly allowing criminals, drug dealers, thieves, gangsters and rapists to come and live among you.

    The left in the US will justify anything, even rape, to excuse its vacuous and self promoting policies
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are not immigrants, they are criminal aliens. There is a difference...
     
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    When (not "if") the Eventual GOP Nominee in 2016....either Jeb who is honest about it or Walker (or others) who lie about it but will "evolve" after the Primaries.....

    come out in favor of a "process for some form of legal status" for undocumented immigrants?


    I wonder what the "no amnesty ever" opponents will do?


    Given manipulation by RNC-led Media (Fox, etc) and pure partisanship...

    I'm betting 99% of them still remain loyal defenders and supporters of that GOP Nominee.
     
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    Immigration is low on the agenda. The GOP nominee or the GOP elect really has no power to have amnesty passed. He can have ideas on what he may like to see, however it is Congress that must first push a bill.


    Same thing they did last time, shut down the phone boards to Congress.


    :roflol: :roll: :yawn:

    Do you really think that immigration is the only issue?
     
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    Growing the Democrat Party base has some nasty side effects.
     
  14. Brewskier

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    I'm sure these kids would take a similar picture back in their home countries, where they aren't acting as tax burdens on these kids:

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  15. Kranes56

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    No problem. I don't know if you got back to me later but if you want to talk about your points, go ahead.

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    A crime is an actual legal word, a felony is not a crime. They have very different conotations. One is akin to homicide and violent crimes, and the latter is about not paying a parking ticket. Those are important when it comes to making public opinion.

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    Unlawful precense isn't a crime. It's a felony. Two different things.

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    I"m sorry were you talking to me or El Cid?
     
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    Here's a particularly revolting atrocity foisted onto a vulnerable family by our immoral and criminal "leaders".
    I look forward to the day I get to personally settle up with our debased and perverted political class.


    "• At the left is shown Darlene Squires, the distraught mother of a disabled teenager, one of two girls who were raped on October 24, 2002, by three members of a Salvadoran street gang located in Somerville, Massachusetts. Aged 17 and 14, both victims are deaf and one has cerebral palsy. Mrs. Squires believed that the attacks were a retaliation against her family because her husband confronted the young men after they had harassed the Squires son. Later reports indicated the men arrested for the crime were illegal aliens.Law enforcement officials were concerned about increased violence from the MS-13 gang which was "believed to have originated in part with soldiers and their families who left El Salvador." Local residents estimate the gang has more than 100 members in their community. An update a few months after the Squires crime showed that the gang problem in the community has only gotten worse."
     
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    That depends on the definition of what "unlawful" is...

    Hilarious.
     
  18. Kranes56

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    Which is my point.

    Which doesn't explain the rolley eye.

    At this point we're not arguing rape, we're arguing immigration. Throwing rape into the mix is just an emotional grab that has nothing to do with logic or reason.
     
  19. Kranes56

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    And they would be doing it somewhere else. If we are against rape, shouldn't we be against rape everywhere, not just when it occurs in the US?

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    Would it help if I told you most illegal immigrants didn't even commit a crime to get here? Most are here because their work visas expired. Unlawful presence isn't a crime.

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    What would that difference be?
     
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    Yes, I should have clarified that. I responded to El Cid, and that is the person to whom my remarks were directed.

    But, without touching the quoting directives, the system pretty much hashed my response making it look like it might have been directed to you.


    I've liked what you've been saying.

    I will point out that being in the US without papers is a civil misdemeanor.

    That's a good thing, because if it were more serious than that, the individual could avail himself of full legal protections we have for the accused - providing defense lawyers, etc. We would have serious trouble trying to handle that load for the number of people we deport.

    As a civil misdemeanor, we can deport the person with very little legal effort.
     
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    Do you know what the difference is between a crime and a felony? It's fun word play, but important word play.
     
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    The difference is that an alien, which they are, doesn't garner sympathy. Whereas the idea that they are 'immigrants' which they aren't does garner sympathy. This is a cheap attempt to put emotion into what should be a black letter law issue...
     
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    Ever heard of "poisoning the well"? Or should would it be better if we only cared about street racing when illegal immigrants were doing it?

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    So in other words, an emotional play at words.

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    If I'm correct in my understanding of US immigration courts, they still have trials for immigrants who cross the border. They just look very different.
     
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    1. A newly-elected President DOESN'T set the agenda ....especially with his own Party in control of Congress???

    Notice also, you didn't answer my question. If Jeb Bush or some other supporter of a pathway to citizenship is the GOP Nominee.....what will the Right do? "Not vote" "stay home"...and let HILLARY win?!?!?

    2. Shutting down the phone banks....to what end? A Republican President would have been elected...thus showing Congress that the American people SUPPORT his agenda over the objections of those who do NOT support his agenda.

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    What EXACTLY would that entail? And when do you see it occuring? (Answer both questions, please)
     

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