I have a question and its to the Females on here. I have never met or really gotten into conversations about feminizm, Nor Do I think slaves out of either sex would be wise. However I think (maybe its just me being young and dumb but..) From what I know its about equality, Same pay, Same punishments, Same everything really. So I know women who are bigger then me (weight or height) just like I know guys who are bigger then me (weight or height) My question is. Is there trully a way for us all to be equals or is it just something that is desired but wont ever be grasped? (To the females, Please no Feminazi's wont want this because, Want to get a female feminist perspective first) To the post about women controlling men and "Bring your first we'll bring our guns" Im not real sure that would be the best attitude to have to change things for the simple fact that not everyone wants to fight, and some of the men who would fight would probably be more scared then the women (For those of us who were raised to protect women) But I also wont lay down to get any procedures such as a labotomy or castration.
""""My question is. Is there trully a way for us all to be equals or is it just something that is desired but wont ever be grasped?""" Not one person on earth is exactly equal to any other, but equal rights, human rights , should apply to everyone. It's hard to think there's still those sociopaths who believe otherwise....but it did take until the 20th century to get women's right to vote and a host of other things....so with the ignorant misogynists slowing things down total equality will take time. You seem very secure and broad minded so you may not understand scared little men who think they're clever by denigrating women...it makes up for their obvious sexual deficits...
Not gonna lie, I am a bit saddened that chivalry is dead and that so many men speak so poorly of women as a whole like they do, especially on these forums. As 'unequal' as it may sound, whatever happened to teaching men to respect women? On the flip side though I can understand men's anger and frustration when it comes to marriage and then their losses in divorce due to court bias towards women. I had a lot of personal experience with this from childhood. When my mother and father split up I got to listen to my dad moan and groan about having to pay child support for us and he made us feel like horrible burdens. I wished every day of my life that he would just sign away his rights to us (my brother and I) so I wouldn't be the cause of all the money he was losing. He also dogged on women all the time, saying how horrible they were and it made me feel terrible that I had been born female. I started to think that I was a bad person solely based on my gender... *sigh* I dunno. I would like to say I am a feminist based on the actual definition of the word but at the same time it has so much negativity attached to it and people immediately think you are some extremist woman that hates men if you label yourself as one, so I have always avoided that label.
Chivalry isn't dead its cautious lol I open doors for people and get yelled out. I don't let it get to me I think its just no one has respect for each other that they dont care about helping each other.
Yeah I kinda get the same feeling now too. People just don't care about one another anymore, it's all about the self, consumerism, greed, being better than others, certain people being beneath them... =(
I'm sorry, I don't understand your blaming women and feminism for your father's obvious lack of responsibility in caring for his children. He owed you support and the court made him do it. Doesn't sound like he would have if the court didn't force him to. It isn't women's fault he wasn't much of a man or a father......look at how he made you feel. Why do you think courts favor women so much in custody cases,...just look at your father..a rotten parent. The negativity attached to feminism is all from scared little men and browbeaten women......Being a feminist is something to be proud of, it means you believe everyone deserves equal rights. Don't believe the "feminazi" crap...tiny minds get that from the likes of Rush Limbaugh, a noted hate monger and champion misogynist ...there are extremes in every "group"...it doesn't mean the goal, the ideals of feminism are bad and all feminists do not think alike.
I guess what I am trying to say is that as a woman I feel the pain of being treated as unequal or less than my male counterparts while on the other hand I can understand the plight of men and why they feel so hateful towards women from my personal experience with divorce and court bias towards women. And it was biased, my mom could have made the effort to live in a close enough proximity to my dad so that we could have lived half and half with both parents, but she chose not to because she wanted to hurt him. My dad is a very greedy person definitely and he certainly would have spent much less on us if he could have, but I saw that my mother wasn't the best parent either and quite frankly I don't know if she used all of the child support for us or for the many things she bought for herself at the time as well. The both of them used us as ploys in their game against each other and that was very wrong of them, I have even told them what they did wrong and as far as I know my mother deeply regrets it but my dad is still playing the blame game "Well your mother!..." I just wish that for the sake of the mental and emotional health of children involved in these man vs women issues that most men and women would learn to put their hate for one another aside and do what is better and healthier for their kids. I am also trying to bring up a very serious issue that this vitriol, hate and stereotyping of women does to young girls like it did to me. I grew up feeling very poorly about my self and my image and I always vowed to never hold such hate for any man I was in a relationship with like the hate my parents had for one another. My dad was angry and he fell into the women hating trap that some people in society perpetuate, some for I think valid reasons and others probably not so valid. My experiences have formed my strong views on marriage and building a strong bond between husband and wife and not bringing children into the world that two people are not prepared for or that they do not want.
Your parents were individuals...two PEOPLE. What one did shouldn't represent what every person of that sex is all about....their SEX shouldn't be blamed. Yes, SOME men may feel hateful and resentful of women because for so long they were in power. When women demanded rights, it frightened some men......afterall, to 'be superior" all men had to do was be born (not much of an accomplishment but automatically gave them rights women didn't have) Those in power always want to hold their position and anything to challenge that will be met with resentment, hatred, fear, lies, vilification of the challengers and attacks. Women who only wanted to vote were beaten, jailed , disowned, and divorced. Your father was wrong about women but his hatred and fear even overrode his love for his own children twisting their emotions and crushing their self worth......not all men are like that ...and all feminists don't hate men.......but they do hate inequality.
Oh I know this, but I know many other people who had parents like mine and who fell into the destructive man vs woman issues. Oh yes I know this too. I am just saying I wish less men and women would believe all the stereotypes of man vs woman and would not hate the opposite sex so much or even treat the opposite sex poorly just based on that. I see so many people here hating the opposing gender, granted more men ragging on women than the opposite, but I have definitely seen women say nasty things about men here too, and I just find it truly sad that they feel this way. Makes me wonder if they have a child of the opposite gender, the gender they hate so much and if they make their feelings known to their kids...
I see it both sides of the coin as well, But I have also seen some vindictive people out there from both genders, I do however beleive for every person who is worthless there is someone who is kind. Because of your parents being the way they were Pasithea, you do seem to be a good person, So always think of the positive. Hell being positive through life is what has kept me here. lol We all get dealt crap cards in life, how we over come them is what makes us who we are.
