The percentage of deaths from Covid-19

No, it's completely accurate, but I'm going to start referring to it as the Case Fatality Rate.... you can read my post above to see why...

 

You know this is not true because you know the total number of those who have, or had, CV-19 is unknown.
Why do you continue to make statements you know are not true?

 

We've done more testing then several nations combined. We've certainly more tests then the "OMG, they got it under control" Chinese.(ROFL, LMFAO.)

Obviously 5 Million tests is a far cry from "everybody", and it was dumb of Trump to say that. But the at-home tests are a game changer. I think what we should do is have two tests: One by swab, and one by blood. That way you can cancel out any false positives or negatives.

 

Yes, but I said RANDOM testing, which per the video (I'm guessing you didn't watch), is the only way to determine the Infection Mortality Rate...

In general, we are only testing the symptomatic or the at-risk, due to location or job.

RANDOM

 

I didn't watch the video, but I'm going on a limb and say that if you test everybody, that's as random as it can get. The more people in general we test, the better.

 

And so, you know the number of cases used to calculate the death 5.8% death rate you continue to claim is inaccurate.

 

None of the estimates of the true infection number are above 1%. Most are at the mortality rate of influenza. The latest from Kern County CA shows ~ 0.03%.

Using the case mortality is intellectually dishonest because it overstates the actual infection rate by orders of magnitude. The Covid virus is highly contagious but no more deadly than the common flu. Those with serious preconditions are very susceptible but children are not.

 

Obviously.... it's very possible that within the next year, we might end up testing every single person in the US...

Watch the video... it's only 4:30 and it's the best simple discussion of the 3 different rates I've seen.. It would allow us all to at least describe which numbers we are preferring to focus on...

 

A completely ridiculous statement, as long as you indicate which number you are using and what you are using it for....

As I pointed out, the video indicates you need RANDOM testing to determine the Infection Fatality Rate... Are you aware of any RANDOM testing going on in the USA?

I'm not....

 

And so, you know the number of cases used to calculate the death 5.8% death rate you continue to claim is inaccurate.

 

In NY the number of flu hospitalizations went practically to zero on Apr 4. Why is that ??

 

All of the testing done in Santa Clara County by Stanford, Southern California by USC, and Kern County has been random.

 

Great!! And how many counties are there in the USA?

BTW, not all the testing done in "Southern California" is going to be random. I'm assuming there are hospitals in Southern California?

Also, a link would be nice if there is random testing beginning to occur somewhere....

 

There is a separate thread on all this and more testing world wide. New York has also done testing and have concluded that the mortality rate is ~ 0.5%. Additionally Germany, Scotland (0.04%), Holland (0.8%), Massachusetts (0.3%) have confirmed mortality less than 1%.

 

Another claim from you with no links and while you're looking for your link please provide the same figures for previous years. Oh, you do know that the flu season does have an end point don't you, hence why it's called a season?

 

This is from a WaPo hit piece on Laura Ingraham who has been reporting on this. The hit piece actually makes her case. Notice how the cases in 2020 nosedive instead of gradually ramping down. Why is that ??



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-gin-up-mystery-around-coronavirus-new-york/

 

The 2019/2020 started earlier and there has been social distancing which obviously reduces rate of transmission.

 

To the contrary: I did provide you with some; and you simply chose to brush them aside.

It is truly sad that you cannot just admit this,,,

 

I do find it quite interesting that you focus upon the "Total hospitalizations" this season vis-a-vis previous seasons, and (rather arbitrarily) attribute this to the covid-19 virus.

Well, if not that, then what?

Actually, I do not know.

But it really is not my responsibility to do so.

 

Again.….
Why do you care?
How would you use that number to compare Texas with Montana.

 

No, you have misunderstood. AFM's claim is that reported flu cases are down because flu cases have been attributed to covid. The graph I posted of flu cases shows that reported flu cases are not down but are in fact higher than in each of the previous 5 years contrary to AFM's claim

 

When did you provide facts??

Your OP has this quote

SNIP
Assistant Secretary of Health Brett Giroir recently noted that "[t]he best estimates now of the overall mortality rate for Covid-19 is somewhere between 0.1 percent and 1 percent. That’s lower than you’ve heard probably in many reports."
ENDSNIP

Do you actually comprehend the difference between a "best estimate" and a fact.

Regardless, he's probably talking Infection Mortality Rate, which can't ever really be estimated at this time because there's not enough random testing.

I'm talking Case Fatality Rate, which takes 2 very calculablenumbers...

Can't compare Apples to Balloons...

 

Tell us again how you believe the CV-19 death rate is 5.8%, even thought you know the number used to calculate said rate is wrong.

 

Case Fatality Rate up to 5.9%... I thought as we did additional testing, this would start coming down.

One very dangerous disease, if not as potentially wide spread as originally thought..

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

The mortality rate based on cases is meaningless with regard to policy decisions. It inflated the actual mortality rate based on infections by two orders of magnitude. What use is the mortality rate based on cases ???