The percentage of deaths from Covid-19

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  1. AFM

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    The additional testing shows that most infected people didn’t even realize they had been infected. Why would you assume that the rate based on cases would go down ???
     
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    You know this is not true, because you know the number of people who have/had the virus used to calculate it is wrong.
     
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    It's a measure of the disease severity... In this case, it says that COVID-19 is relatively deadly compared to other diseases...

    And it's Case Fatality Rate... I'm not using 'mortality rate' anymore...
     
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    Another statement you know is not true, because you know the death rate you continue to cite is wrong.
     
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    And for the 8th time, I'll go with JHU over generic internet guy....
     
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    Even though you know the JHU number is wrong, because you know it does not account for all the people who have/had the disease.
     
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    Nor do we know how many more, and how many more might have died and the death attributed to something else.
     
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    Nor does it claim to for this calculation.. maybe that's your problem??
     
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    So you agree: The 5.9% mortality rate from JHU is wrong.
    Thank you.
     
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    The problem is you want to believe CV-19 has a 5.9% mortality rate even though you know at least one of the numbers used to calculate that % is wrong.
     
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    No it’s not. The most important information we know is that it is hard on the elderly and those with serious preconditions. The other important information is that most people are unaffected by it. That tells the story. Protect the vulnerable and understand that people without symptoms can transmit the disease to those most vulnerable.

    Tha case fatality rate provides no useful information.
     
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    The "fact" provided by liberals, as concerning future deaths (and even infections) for covid-19 are, in fact, just "estimate."
     
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    If that were true, doctors probably wouldn't calculate and publish it...

    N'est-ce pas?

    It's not the end of the story, but a starting place...
     
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    What doctors are publishing it ??? It’s a statistic with no meaning.
     
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    We have many and a growing number of estimates whose accuracy is increasing everyday. And most of those estimates are ~ two orders of magnitude less than the mortality rate based on cases.

    Sweden is now at ~ 30% herd immunity.
     
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    You are championing this statistic but what use is it ??? How does inform policy decisions ??
     
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    How do any of these statistics inform policy decisions?

    We aren't doing much (if any) random testing in this country, so an Infection Fatality Rate cannot yet be calculated.

    Determining the Crude Morality Rate is totally pointless until the thing is over.

    I would say that the fact that a reasonably high pct of known cases end up dying should make people more afraid of going out and risking getting this, which should make the governors more nervous about opening things up..
     
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    Mortality based on infections certainly does affect policy. Herd immunity estimates certainly does affect policy. And we already know that based on the NYC data that 98% of deaths involve serious preconditions and a high percentage of those are elderly.
     
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    Then again you're not driven by Democrat agenda either ;)
     
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    You/we don't know that either until a quick antibody test is release.. Until then EVERY aspect of this virus is nothing but inconclusive bullshit at best!
     
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    That's it.. Logic, GOD the "L" word in the presence of leftist.. Know one know the number of those that contracted the virus and simply didn't even now they did and the number of those that had very mild symptoms and those that experienced full blow flu as early as Nov-Dec 2019. But this is actually the MO of the DNC, they are known for overestimating things and waking up with egg on their face, and this virus in going to be SOS just another hyperbolic reaction of a over reactive group :(
     
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    Right now we have 1.2 million infected and 68,000 deaths.

    Do the math on that

    You don't like the result? DO MORE TESTING...and until you can do that the above stands.

    This thing is deadly

    Sixty Eight Thousand dead in six weeks people

    And please don't give me the

    "Oh it's only old people"

    Ok?
     
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    But there is no case figure with which to produce that rate. There is likely vastly more cases than those recorded, so all death rates are meaningless.
     
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    They're calculating it and publishing it because it's all they have. Until antibody testing is efficient and widespread, we won't have any idea what the death rates are.
     

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