The SCrOTUS could DERAIL the GOP in the 2022 Midterms

Disclaimer: This OP is about the POLITICAL ramifications of the a RULING that overturns Row v Wade nationwide. It is not about the morality of abortions but rather what will be the political fallout from banning abortions for the largest voting bloc in the nation.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/supreme-court-mississippi-abortion-law_n_60a2a301e4b069dc48fe40f7

A ruling by the SCrOTUS on this case will probably be handed down in 2022 just in time for the MIDTERM elections.

With a 6-3 rightwing SCrOTUS the ruling is a foregone conclusion IMO.

A ruling that TRASHES RvW will ENABLE 24 states to AUTOMACTICALLY ban abortions.

As stated in the Disclaimer above this is not about the MORALITY of abortion per se.

This is about DENYING the 51% MAJORITY of the electorate their RIGHT to bodily autonomy.

In effect this ruling could MOTIVATE the LEFT to vote in greater numbers for a midterm election and that would JEOPARDIZE the chances of the Q-GOP regaining any control in Congress in 2022.

Bear in mind that the Electorate is TRENDING ever more liberal with the Demographic shifts towards a more DIVERSE population.

The OUTCOME of the 2022 midterm election is going to hinge on this SCrOTUS ruling IMO.

Your thoughts?

 

I think that when women, especially young women, see the attempt to destroy their right to their own bodies ….and how it will lead to other rights' losses, they will vote Democrat...

 

You reasoning has one basic flaw. The states that will ban abortions also have a populace that favors banning abortions.

 

I truly hope this thread can stay on the path of its original intent. Fingers crossed.

I completely agree that SCOTUS stripping such essential rights will have a very serious impact on votes. But I also think that there could be a domino effect on other 'rights' that the Right hadn't intended nor wanted.

 

Isn't it odd that the party who screams the loudest about any taxes going toward entities that aid children , like Welfare and SNAP, is the party who wants to create MORE poor children???

 

I think you are Going to be right - but it is not just that. The right has been standing on a platform of “God Guns and Abortion” for years. Toss out RvW and you have removed one platform - what will they replace it with?

 

Agreed!

There is a lack of consideration for the consequences of these types of actions IMO. The theists have been waging this War on Women's Rights for several decades now and they have achieved their goal of having a SCrOTUS that will overturn RvW. What happens next was never on their radar. Women do NOT take kindly to being TOLD what they MUST do with their own bodies.

 

EXACTLY....strip away the basic human right of bodily autonomy and pregnant women are owned by the state!

So what is next? Loss of right to vote?

Loss of right to equal pay?

I mean , if you're turned into thing and not a person why should you have any rights???

 

If I was an advocate for abortion, I would emphasize the fact abortion reduces populations of the least productive and most violent demographics. You could probably sell that to Conservatives concerned about crime and entitlement spending. With more cons on board, abortion would be “safe”.

 

Good point!

How will they lure in stupid One Issue (abortion) voters if they actually DO something about abortion ??

LOL

 

We do not see killing another human as an automatic right. So no, we fight for the rights of the unborn child, which in virtually all cases, was created by the willful act of the mother and father.

 

Worse yet - they don’t have the NRA deep pockets anymore so there goes the guns......

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Isn't it odd that the party who screams the loudest about any taxes going toward entities that aid children , like Welfare and SNAP, is the party who wants to create MORE poor children???

Well, I'm not an advocate for abortion ...I'm an advocate for women having the same rights as everyone else.

 

Want to back that with some polls?

 

I don't think you understand conservatism very well. Read Milton Friedman. I'm a huge fan of his, and agree with him that you need some basic social safety nets for people who just have periods of bad luck, stupid decisions, are handicapped, elderly, or have other difficulties. The problem is the manner in which the safety net has been implemented, which promotes more of it, instead of promoting people to stand on their own.

 

That sure doesn't refute the post of mine you quoted:

FoxHastings said: ↑
Isn't it odd that the party who screams the loudest about any taxes going toward entities that aid children , like Welfare and SNAP, is the party who wants to create MORE poor children???


Which is more on topic than debating cons weird ideas..

 

We all know it's coming, but do let us know what rights men have that women don't. Or are you complaining about affirmative action programs that let a minority into Harvard, but not a pregnant woman?

 

Ja, I think it would serve as a hard lesson for moderate Republicans that voting extremists into the party and the government has ramifications.

 

It does address it. The aid goes to the parents. Who may or may not care for their children appropriately.

 

Has it not occurred to you that the reason those states have those laws is because the citizens in those states voted for the representatives that passed those laws to start with? The women on those states tend to consider abortion murder. They consider that a mortal sin. If you are going to quote statistics,

The polls are the elections that got those legislatures elected to start with.

 

I guess I could have missed it, but I’ve never seen you advocate for men’s rights to refuse child support in cases where the woman exercises her right to take pregnancy to term.

In fact I believe you advocate for taking away my right to not have to support any children I don’t wish to support.

Do you really support equal rights?

 

No

there ARE other issues


It is an even bigger spread among women. All you need though once those laws have passed is one case that is controversial like Savita Halappanavar in Ireland Or the 11 year old who was denied an abortion in Argentina - in both cases decades of restrictions were overturned virtually overnight

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Isn't it odd that the party who screams the loudest about any taxes going toward entities that aid children , like Welfare and SNAP, is the party who wants to create MORE poor children???





Well, I'm not an advocate for abortion ...I'm an advocate for women having the same rights as everyone else.

That law is equal.....women can't refuse to pay child support.

I don't advocate for it but believe in it.

Like women, men should have to take responsibility for the children they create.

Do you?


Now, care to address my ON TOPIC post you quoted???

 

The repeal or ruling overturning R v W isn't about to happen. what might happen is giving stating the right to limit when abortions can be performed. No abortions after 6 months or something like that for example.Some states may have earlier limits, some later, some not at all. But overturning R v W, a snowball has a better chance of survival in Hades along with me winning the power ball and mega millions the same week.

39% of all Americans say abortion is a very important issue along with 30% saying it is somewhat important. Don't just assume all those 69% are in favor of abortion. 70% of Biden's voters said abortion was a very or somewhat important issue while 71% of Trump voters said the same thing. I would assume the former were pro abortion and the later anti abortion.

Gallup had some interesting figures on this, 50% of all Americans want to keep abortion legal under most circumstance, 48% illegal under most circumstances. 48% consider themselves pro-choice, 46% pro-life. You had 29% of all Americans who want to keep abortion legal under all circumstance, 20% who want to keep abortion illegal under all circumstances.

I wouldn't assume folks who say abortion is their hot issue are in favor, numbers show that those who say so, are fairly evenly split. It's like gun control, 65% of all Americans say gun control is a very important issue to them. But once it is broken down, 43% want stricter gun control legislation, 44% was less gun control legislation. Be careful what you assume.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

 

As I said before, if you are going to use statistics, do it by state.