The So Called Indoctrination in Schools

Well stated. The whole rise of Trumpism is based on pure anti-intellectualist ignorance.

 

Heaven forbid that little Johnny think for himself!

Nothing scares modern day conservatives more than being schooled by their own kids!

 

"so called " OP? I'd say indoctrination has worked just as planned.

 

I recall , some 55 years ago, we got the "Weekly Reader" in class and I recall that harmless little kiddie news paper was warning us brains full of mush that we faced apocalypses by overpopulation..THEN, I beleive starting in the late sixties. climate change was we were going to make ourselves freeze.. then kill ourselves with nuclear waste (to say nothing of the spectre of nuclear annilation hanging over our heads for most of my lifetime), run out of gas.. etc.. etc... indoctrination continues to this day.

Another thnig.. ever seen those "man in the street" interviews? There are a lot of normal looking peoiple that can't name the most basic facts .. such as "who in the VP" , name the three branches of Govt, When was the Civil War, what is the 4th of July" , I don't know the percentage of the extremely ignorant.. but it should be next to zero and not detectible in a normal population, how did someone so ignorant graduate HS? Now I have sen stats that Harvard Grads knbow less US civics when they graduate than when they entered college.

 

Fact is.. the stupid have no idea how stupid they are, crazy people do not know they are crazy..

 

I think the 3Rs are an example of attempts at indoctrination. My local public school district has adopted the 3Rs.

 

I wouldn't say schools so much indoctrinate as much as flat out fail to teach the two most crucial facets of attaining knowledge namely critical thinking, and research techniques.

 

Now they want to indoctrinate while day drinking from their couch.

Not Satisfied With Just Having Summers Off, Teachers Push For Fall, Winter, Spring.

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Having summers off is no longer enough for our ungrateful public "servants": teachers figure the pandemic is a great opportunity to demand the other three seasons off too.

Of course, the Teachers Union is demanding full pay for the 12 months off. You can't assess union dues without a paycheck!

 

DEFUND THE THOUGHT POLICE: America burns while our schools hold the match: The nation’s educational establishment is responsible for current chaos and lack of restraint.

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Your defensiveness is your Teacher Fragility - confirming your guilt.

 

It requires no more than a small effective minority to alter things. The biggest impact of indoctrination (which is not the perfect term but close enough) in primary and secondary schools comes from the state board of education and the various school districts. Individual teachers have their effect but if is minimal because there are strict rules of education that dictates what a teacher can personally teach. (I was a high school substitute teacher for many years. It was great because as I sometimes told the kids I can tell the truth and get only a slap on the wrist.) The indoctrination stems predominately from textbook control that often reflects the personal bias of people in control of textbooks or general administrative rules. This is pervasive (albeit not predominate) in the area of "personal health," world and American history, and some science, more so in some states like California than in others..

Colleges are different since the professor has 90% control over what and how things are taught. This is the area where indoctrination has its biggest impact with very little mitigation because the teachers have free rein and the college student is still wowed, susceptible and impressionable. For reasons beyond easy compression liberal progressive professors do predominate and are turning out liberal progressive grads.

In support of other posts I think there are definite limits as to what and how subjects should be taught in the primary gains. 2nd and 3rd graders are in no way a position to learn, comprehend, and understand some subject material, let alone modify their actions (which is the highest level of education). It is at best blind brainwashing to teach a 3rd grader how homosexuality works and how acceptable it has to be (though you incorrectly imply they are just being taught to be nice), or the best way to effect birth control. It is not effective -- and likely detrimental -- to teach 5th graders the hard history of slavery. Just like it would be totally ineffective and actually detrimental to the child to try to teach general relativity or atomic physics in 1st or 7th grade science classes.

Primary students should be taught readin', ritin' and rithmetic and a little personal hygiene and exercise because they are simply learning what this world is, and this is at their learning limits. Secondary student can get more in depth and diverse education because their minds can handle it and they are learning more than what the world is but how they fit in and what can they do with it.

 

Progressive tenets of Faith, that are indoctrinated by academia and other progressive run institutions:

1. Global warming!
2. Atheistic Naturalism! Common ancestry is a fact!
3. America is evil!
4. Socialism is cool!
5. Morality is relative!
6. Pick whatever gender/species/identity you want!

Bobbleheaded indoctrinees cannot spell, do simple arithmetic, or read, but they know that,
"Orange man Bad!"

 

Public and private education has always been about indoctrination.

We teach our children they live in a democracy, but we actually live in a plutocracy or oligarchy.

We teach our children to submit to authority, and so for the last several generations those children are "locked down" for nothing.

We teach our children that the US is a force for good in the world, even as we throw out legitimately elected governments all over the world as we please. Even as we invade countries under fraud.

Yes, school is all about indoctrination.

 

Yes. There has been indoctrination in our schools. It has been slowly broken down over the years by introducing other points of view. That’s the issue for many: breaking down the indoctrination.

 

Do you have school aged children or grandchildren? Take a look at their text books or better yet read their school system's curriculum. Compare what you see to what you had for education. Take a tour of their schools you'll be hard pressed to find much to remind you that you are in America. What you will see is a lot of crap about diversity, sexual preferences, alternative family structures, (illegal) immigrants et al but you will not find an American flag or a picture of the president. From 2008 - 2016 schools were virtually wallpapered with Obama propaganda. My concerns don't end there just as concerning is the absolute crap that they are passing off as education. My kids went to mostly public schools and it was starting to go downhill then but all of them managed to learn how to think. My grandchildren one by one were pulled out of public schools and either attended private schools or were homeschooled.

 

“BREAKING: Rand Paul just introduced legislation to fund families directly using existing federal education funding,” Corey DeAngelis of Reason tweets, adding, “The funding would follow the child to wherever they received an education That could be a public school, private school, or homeschool option. This would fund students instead of systems.”

We need to focus taxpayer funding on Students, not systems.

 

Simple. Schools are teaching facts. That leads to liberal indoctrination.

 

There is a schooll by me. in the window is a sign that advertises signups for pre K schooling. Next to that is a poster of Trump and Hitler. and list of all the horrible things Hitler and Trump both did.

Goebbels would be proud.

 

What are you basing this on exactly? To indoctrinate means "to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle," according to Merriam-Webster. More specifically, it means to cause "someone to absorb and take on certain opinions or principles."

 

Here's a bunch of college sites that talk about the nonsense of gender fluidity:

https://www.siue.edu/research/featu...rch/gender-fluid-not-just-for-teenagers.shtml
https://myusf.usfca.edu/caps/supporting-gender-identity
https://cpb-us-https://thedaily.case.edu/transgend...enderqueer-gender-nonconforming-gender-fluid/
https://www.geneseo.edu/lgbtq/gender-identity
https://www.unomaha.edu/student-lif...esources/queer-trans-spectrum-definitions.php
https://digitalcommons.linfield.edu.../&httpsredir=1&article=1098&context=symposium

Let me know if you need more, OP.

 

That's a lot to address, and I agree with some of it, but I think you miss something with regard to college kids. College kids are wide-eyed idealists with dreams, raging hormones and without work experience or responsibility. They are and have always been liberal. I've heard the claim of liberal faculty in academia for decades. I don't necessarily doubt it, but I do question the overall effect. I don't see it as indoctrination.

What we see in our college students is simply a reflection of human nature that has given us the truism; we all get more conservative as we age. It has always been this way, and people have always progressed beyond youthful idealism. If someone is attempting indoctrination, they are failing miserably.

 

You make good points, but just because the professors have ready and willing students doesn't mean that they do not successfully indoctrinate.

 

Hmm, do you really think it wise to mention not being able to spell and Orange Man in the same sentence?
You might inadvertently set off a series of posts about smocking guns and the State of Frorida.

 

Smocking guns?

How does poor spelling, and the propaganda meme, 'Orange Man Bad!' correlate?

 

If things are so bad I wonder why conservatives are relentlessly pushing for opening schools and placing students in their seats?

 

We should be opening everything, the longer we hunker down the longer it will take to build immunity. The politics involved on this issue is making Covid 19 out to be some sort of super virus, that makes sensational headlines but so far there's no proof that this is true. What we do know is it disproportionately attacks groups that have comorbidities that make them susceptible to infection. Those are the people who need to be quarantined and protected. No matter how long we remain in this limbo people are going to die. We cannot trust the politicians to give us reliable information nor TV personalities like Fauci who by the way has a huge financial interest in the development of a vaccine. I suspect that Fauci and others were responsible for a lot of disinformation early on in the pandemic tha made things much worse. We should be cautious but we need to get on with our lives, the alternative is to accept this situation as permanent, the new normal. It is not.