Comments like "feminism has become synonymous with bullying" and "the only people I've felt oppressed by are feminists" are pretty true.
Which does not equate to your erroneous statement of before, you seem to be of the illusion that only the most powerful men get to mate and that is just absurd. Tell you what when you can break that 40% down into the "power" status of each individual then you might just have a case, until then it is still hasty generalization and now a confusing cause and effect fallacy. Sarcasm noted and treated with the contempt is richly deserves.
Women tend to control the supply of sex, so that is an example of female privilege. However, women are also slut shamed while men are usualy not, so that is an example of male privilege. With a little help of google I could list dozens of examples of male advantages and dozens of female ones. You cannot say that one sex has it better overall than the other when the issue is so complex and multidimensional. Thats one reason why the kind of feminism that tries to paint women as victims and men as oppressors is wrong. Its not true in modern times.
If I'm getting the context right, it's not the slut thing that bothers them (though I'm sure it does to a point. It is after all name calling, and who likes that, really), but the double standard. Men are looked upon as conquerors of the love-game if they attract multiple partners and convince more than one to do it with them at the same time. Meanwhile a woman does the same thing, she's a slut. This is not an example of penis envy. (Though I'm sure you can try to mix it up so that it seems that way). This is just calling out a double standard that is there. How feminism is attempting to deal with this is by encouraging women to do it anyway and brush off the "slut" thing and take the same pride in it that the so-called "ladies men" do. There are however quite a few feminists who get mad about it, and yeah, that is annoying.
Let's see some quotes. Because as I understand it, you may be taking things out of context. Or do I have vagina envy every time I complain about my balls itching?
FoxHastings Wrote: WAHHHH! I am a man and life is so unfair!! Women have it so easy! THEY get to be pregnant and I don't ! NOT FAIR! I WANT an EQUAL share of : (We have been culturally conditioned to accept some incredible and false ideas. But it is offensive to assert that pregnancy impacts men in any way equivalent to its impact on women; that fathers and mothers have comparable experiences or feelings in connection with pregnancy or their babies; that nonresident unwed fathers, based on DNA, ipso facto "should" have "rights;" that, from the standpoint of family laws or women's choices regarding abortion, pregnancy should be viewed as nothing more than an "inconvenience"; or that the riskiest "jobs" in this world all are performed by men. (Compare the percentages of women carrying the scars of pregnancy with the percentages of men who carry the scars of battle.) Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy: exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks) altered appetite and senses of taste and smell nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester) heartburn and indigestion constipation weight gain dizziness and light-headedness bloating, swelling, fluid retention hemmorhoids abdominal cramps yeast infections congested, bloody nose acne and mild skin disorders skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen) mild to severe backache and strain increased headaches difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping increased urination and incontinence bleeding gums pica breast pain and discharge swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy inability to take regular medications shortness of breath higher blood pressure hair loss tendency to anemia curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases) extreme pain on delivery hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover) Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy: stretch marks (worse in younger women) loose skin permanent weight gain or redistribution abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh) changes to breasts varicose veins scarring from episiotomy or c-section other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty) increased proclivity for hemmorhoids loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis) higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates) Occasional complications and side effects: complications of episiotomy spousal/partner abuse hyperemesis gravidarum temporary and permanent injury to back severe scarring requiring later surgery (especially after additional pregnancies) dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele) pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies) eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death) gestational diabetes placenta previa anemia (which can be life-threatening) thrombocytopenic purpura severe cramping embolism (blood clots) medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby) diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication) serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis) hormonal imbalance ectopic pregnancy (risk of death) broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone") hemorrhage and numerous other complications of delivery refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures) severe post-partum depression and psychosis research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease Less common (but serious) complications: peripartum cardiomyopathy cardiopulmonary arrest magnesium toxicity severe hypoxemia/acidosis massive embolism increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer) malignant arrhythmia circulatory collapse placental abruption obstetric fistula More permanent side effects: future infertility permanent disability death. """""""""""""""""""" "It's not FAIR that women got to be "less than" men for centuries. I want my efforts/creations/inventions/contributions throughout history to be ignored by society, too! I hated having to vote when women got out of that horrible chore for centuries! NOT FAIR! I wanted to be oppressed and degraded by others who were oppressed and degraded and SHOULD HAVE recognized oppression and degradation as not being right for ANYONE! I want a painful expensive monthly disease, TOO!!! Not fair that I can walk around confident that I probably, because of my sex, won't be raped or targeted for a crime .. NOT FAIR! Not fair that I was hired because of my sex and not because of my abilities...what a DOUBLE STANDARD ! It's a double standard that my wages will always be higher than women's because I, being so superior to women, do NOT have the same child rearing responsibilities...DOUBLE STANDARD!!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHH I want EVERYTHING ! I want to have the FUN of pregnancy!!! Wahhhh.""""
Ok...then what's your explanation for why throughout human history 80% of females reproduced, while only 40% of males reproduced???
If women can have abortions, that also means she can choose to not be a parent without the father's/man consult. So if she can do that, why shouldn't the man have the same choice to opt out or not? If she can be forced to be a parent, then a man should be forced to be a parent. That leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
no idea, but I don't go around making correlation = causation fallacies in order to justify my own opinion. BTW the article you quoted, you didn't give a link to .. I am assuming it comes from the following Mitochondrial Eve - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve Y-chromosomal Adam - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam and the piece you quoted comes from a speech with no actual reference to the research etc done to form the conclusion. If this is in fact where you have got your 'evidence' from then, there is a study that has thrown the conclusions you make into doubt - http://haplogroup-a.com/Ancient-Root-AJHG2013.pdf - This throws the conclusion of sex-based differential reproduction into question.
I'm not a governor so I can't give you a pardon. Im referring to child support. Men usually can not opt out of child support. The only way they do is if they have a very good lawyer. Anti abortion laws in effect forces the mother to have the child.
Is the reason these females are going batty at a beatles concert because they have ants in their pants????
Hey were is Fugazi to point out this is a hasty generalization or is this an impossibility for feminists????
how is that even relevant, or are you trying to suggest that a rockstar has sex with every single groupie Do garbage men have wife's and/or girlfriends? Do garbage men have children? and it is noted that you have ignored response #187 - - - Updated - - - again trying to make correlation = causation, it doesn't.
given that you don't even seem to understand what hasty generalization is BTW don't EVER use my name when responding to another person in the way you have, try reading rule 2 2. PERSONAL ATTACKS AND INSULTS Personal attacks and insults are not tolerated here. When replying to a post, your own post must be about the post to which you are replying, not the poster themselves. Any personal remark about another poster that - in the judgment of a moderator or administrator - could reasonably be regarded as an intentional insult in the context of that discussion will be subject to infraction. Please also keep in mind that simply saying something that's not very nice is not necessarily an insult, nor does the fact that you are offended necessarily mean that you have been insulted. The rules regarding personal attacks extend not only to individual posters, but to groups as well. For example, calling all Republicans idiots is the same as calling every Republican on the board an idiot, and will not be tolerated. A certain amount of latitude may be granted in discussing the policies and the practices of a political party or other political organization, but posters should be advised that this is thin ice, and be cautious about making remarks that personally insult the members of such parties or organizations. And again, simply saying, "I hate Republicans" does not constitute an attack or an insult against Republicans. "I hate Republicans because they are corrupt" is an attack, because it is attacking the character of all Republicans. Attacks against public officials, political figures, celebrities, etc, are allowed, as long as they do not violate the guidelines concerning threats or incitement to violence While you are at it read rules 3 & 4 as well.
It seems you have a selective undrestanding of what a hasty generalization is i.e. hasty generalizations only apply to individuals who believe in equality. Hasty generalizations never apply to feminists and feminist allies.
It looks like having someone's hypocrisy pointed out hurt someone's feelings :icon_(*)(*)(*)(*)hitsthefan
The funny thing is according to you making a generalization based on one hundred thousand of years of humanity is, um....a..."hasty generalization,"-LOL Analyses of the nonrecombining portion of the Y chromosome and mtDNA have suggested that recent common ancestors lived in sub-Saharan Africa within the last 200,000 years.5
Being for equal rights is not reconcilable with feminism, which aims for female priviledge in the courthouse, in the economy and in society.
