Time for the TRUTH. Study of Trump-Promoted Coronavirus Drug Finds More Deaths, No Benefit

The anti-malaria drug flogged over and over again by President Donald Trump as a coronavirus treatment didn't help veterans who got it, according to a new government-funded study.

In fact, the analysis of data from 368 patients at veterans hospitals found 28 percent of those who got it died--compared to 11 percent who received the standard treatment without the drug. And 22 percent of the patients who got hydroxychloroquine plus the antibiotic azithromycin died.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/study...p-promoted-coronavirus-drug-finds-more-deaths
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There, it has been said and DONE. No better than placebo, but deadly. Can we stop with the Trump rainmaker, Candyman? He should NOT have involved himself in DRUG PUSHING. It killed folks.

This whole business should be left up to QUALIFIED experts. By the way, is Fauci still alive?

Trump and his promotional reelection tour should be DISCOURAGED. No matter what the RATINGS, or viewership. Oh, and his insurrection encouragement tour aint doing so well in polling either. Maybe time to let the experts shine. Instead of Trump hogging the limedark.

 

Truly amazing to learn that listening to a "****ing moron" named Donald Trump instead of actual doctors is a bad idea.

 

The team acknowledged that patients who got hydroxychlroquine were likely to be among the most critically ill, but even accounting for that, the death rate was outsize.

 

It says the patients died of heart problems. They should not count because they probably had previous conditions.

 

Truth is, those that were in cytokine storm were NOT going to do better, NO MATTER WHAT. It waws if anything, indicated for early treatment, if not prophylactic.

 

That is PART of MEDICINE, expert, qualified medicine. They read your chart, they take your vitals. They CARE bout your condition. Not reelection polling.

 

While I'm sorely disappointed that chloroquine doesn't help covid-19 patients I can at least feel good that it hurts Trump. There I said - it's good thing it doesn't work if it makes Trump look bad.

 

What exactly is your hysterical complaint about Trump saying it is worth looking into, that it may work and may not? Lots of MDs have reported good success.

 

I read about this and it is true. Some patients reach a point of no return where the system is simply overwhelmed and using the drug (or ANY drug at that point) has little chance of saving the patient.

 

There should be a bigger sample to validate. This is just a small sample. We shouldn't be discoraged by a few anecdotal deaths.

 

Once something is politicized it's hard to know what to believe. Dr. Robin Armstrong seems pretty solid to me. But I don't give a damn what drug solves the corona death problem, just so at least one does.



https://www.dallasnews.com/news/pol...quine-to-treat-coronavirus-to-d-fw-hospitals/

 

How you feel is mostly irrelevant.
It is likely that the vast majority of eligible voters for the November election have already decided their choice for President in 2020.

The Left can spew enough hatred and disinformation to fill the Grand Canyon and more than enough voters will see past it.

But thanks for your truly sad take on America.

 

Trump doesn't really need to hog the limedark. This forum is proof that people pay attention to every word. I don't like Trump, but his opposition makes him the voice of reason by comparison. He never prescribed it, but he does have a rosy outlook. I don't pay much attention to his words, but those waiting for the government to tell them what to do or which drugs to take should not be allowed out of the house.

 

REmdesivir, given late in the game, STILL leads to a good result, and quickly.

It too, helps more early, and even might help prophylactically. I need to study it more.

 

Hydroxycloriquine is recommended to be used early after diagnosis for patients showing symptoms, they have been shown to recover sooner with less virus shedding.

 

Ok, thanks.
I think I heard about that on the news recently but don't know much about it.
Hope it helps.

 

Aren't you going to dump on that one too, Trump said in March Remdesivir is also worth looking into.

 

The problem is, WHEN the president was listening to those other people, those other people didn't have any better information. There had been no studies and basically just tiny samples or anecdotal evidence. That's why the health experts he brings on stage wouldn't even advise it's use or back the president up.

But lets be realistic, the president didn't really consult people before talking about this. He saw it on the internet and brought it up in his briefing. That's how he rolls.

I haven't got a problem with folks using it through compassionate use protocols, as long as they realize what they're getting into and aren't thinking it's going to work because the president said so.

Luckily, Remdesivir seems to be showing some promise.

 

He gave that drug the proper respect and caution. I have NO QUARREL with his treatment of THAT drug.

 

Funny, no response to this. 39 patients ages from 70-102 treated with hydroxycloroquine, all were getting worse before treatment, only one died, great improvement in the rest, no side effects.

 

If Mr. Trump touted a drug with NO consultation whatsoever then I would agree it was a mistake.
I don't know for myself if that is an accurate account.

Mr. Trump doesn't always do what I would consider best, but it would be my opinion he has overwhelmingly acted in the best interest of his country.
However, opening Wildlife REFUGES for hunting is about as stupid as it gets. (I'm a wildlife photographer, so it matters to me...I don't want to get SHOT!)
Plus there are already tens of millions of acres available for hunting. Duh.

 

And you know that how?

 

A hunter here, it matters to me also.

 

One study against doesn't mean the drug doesn't work, just that it didn't work in this case alone. We need more trials to figure out if it does work, or if it doesn't.

 

But C'mon...there's already so much room for hunting. Now I have to worry about getting shot in a REFUGE ??