Top generals feared Trump would attempt a coup after election, according to new book

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  1. Reality

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    How do you think you're going to pass those things without enough votes to break cloture when you're dicking around with this instead of doing your jobs?
    Use your brain ffs.

    You're not going to get rid of anyone, no one is getting impeached. And if all you have is "we pretty much jerked it in public the entire time and made half hearted lame attempts to get things done" you're not going to sway the existing republican constituents to your side, and your party has shown its ass far too many times (as with the republicans) to catch much of the independent vote. Things being as polarized as they are, you need that.

    Aw you thought all that shrieking harridanism was being Mr. Nice Guy? Bless your little heart. That's like the pubs claiming they're doing God's work ffs.
     
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    If you get HR1 passed you'll have more votes, though not necessarily voters, than you can keep up with.
     
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    Milley again. More woke concern troll liberal than military man anymore.
     
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    If you've ever spent any time working with high-level military cliques and their staff in the D. C. 'constellation', you'd know that an outsider 'rogue', upstart billionaire like Trump could never (NEVER) pull off something like a 'coup'. :roll:

    General Milley has a long, distinguished career, but if he bought into some Democrat-inspired, paranoid idea that Donald Trump had enough power and influence to entice 'power'-brokers anywhere to stage a coup on his own behalf, then all I can say is that Milley was laughably mistaken....
     
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    Trump may not have actually had enough power and influence to pull off such a coup but he was delusional enough to think he did and desperate enough to think he could. Don’t forget, Trump had the just pardoned nit wit Flynn in his ear.
     
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    Not sure what point you're trying to make, but you may be sure that poor old set-up, trusting, ambushed Flynn couldn't have pulled off something like a 'coup' for Trump. either.

    Understand one thing about the Pentagon-level military power brokers: they don't (DON'T) make waves!

    They live for fat retirement checks as Colonels or Generals and then getting themselves careers as well-paid 'consultants' working for Fortune-50 government Prime Contractors. That doesn't (DOESN'T) happen if you make waves! :no:
     
  7. bx4

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    According to these reports, Milley didn’t think donny could pull off a coup, but that he was so unstable that he might try to do it.

    Doesn’t it bother you that some of the people around trump were concerned that he might try to use the military to stay in power?
     
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    Agree. I think Milley's opinion was formed by his contact with Trump...not the Democrats. Just finished "Frankly We Did Win The Election," by WSJ White House Correspondent Michael Bender. Bender's major point is that all of the firings took their toll and as problems in the 2020 campaign grew, Trump turned increasingly toward radical advisors, who were simply incompetent. I suspect that after the mid-December electoral count in the states, the crazies looked to January 6th as their last chance to disrupt the process and somehow win or tie and get the election thrown to the House and they'd reverse the outcome. If the House voted, in case of a tie, it would be on the basis of one state = one vote. On that basis, Republicans could have won by 30-21 (the D.C. voting for Biden). The chances of that occurring were virtually nil...but I suspect Trump bought into it and the few sane people left around him didn't want to tell the crazies "no."
     
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    When I was a child, I used get scared about the idea of some kind of monster coming out from under my bed and eating me up! Anyone who seriously thought Donald Trump could stage a successful coup against the government must have had a childlike imagination....
     
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    FFS read what I wrote! Milley wasn’t scared a coup would be successful.
    He was worried that dirty donny would try. That he would ask for military help. That’s what Milley was preparing for - the request. He was planning how to deal with it.

    But it apparently doesn’t bother you that the Chairman of the JCS thought the president was so unstable and unpredictable that he was worried POTUS might try. But if you don’t love America, that’s up to you.
     
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    Oh, now I "don't love America" because I think Gen. Milley's fantasies about Trump and some kind of stupid-assed imaginary 'coup' were laughable, much like a child's "the monster under the bed", ...? :roll:

    [​IMG]. Too bad Milley didn't 'serve' during Vietnam Era... a 'general' like him would have fit right in! :lonely:
     
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    It bothers me a lot that we have a chairman of the JCs that is so unhinged.
     
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    Yeah - he spent decades in the military and rosé to the top by being unhinged.
    On the other hand - we have direct evidence of dirty donny taking extraordinary steps to stay in power. Lying about election fraud. Calling states and asking them to find votes. Pressuring his VP not to certify the EC votes.
    And you can’t believe that Milley held a genuine and reasonable concern that donny might go further?
     
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    No, I can't.
     
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    Donny’s other behavior suggests it wouldn’t be much of a step. The revelations about how he pressured the DOJ to just call the election corrupt and he would handle the rest - that all supports Milley.

    But hey if you want to bury your head in the sand, go for it.
     
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    Suggestion: why don't you and Gen. Milley both hold your breath until Trump launches his 'coup'! Then the rest of us can place bets on which one of you turns blue and passes-out first! :juggle:
     
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    You completely miss the point. Completely. I’ve tried to explain it in simple terms but that doesn’t seem to work. I won’t try again.
    Keep living in your warm fuzzy blanket of denial.
     
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    Let me try to console you this way -- Trump's presidential career is over, done, and finished! The Federal Reserve has other carnival barkers to herd the masses into their stock market casinos now, so don't worry -- Trump isn't going to 'pop out from under the bed'. And nobody with any sense thought he could, either....
     
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    Last sentence was not really necessary, everything else I totally agree with.
     

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