Trans athletes take 1st and 2nd place in Chicago women’s cycling event

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  1. FatBack

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    I'm not interested in the progressives brave New world rewriting of basic biology.

    A woman as an adult female of the homo sapien species. It really is that simple.

    No one who has a penis and testicles will ever become a woman no matter how hard they wish upon a star

    And it doesn't even matter if you have a lot of other people indulging in their delusion along with them it doesn't change the fact that reality is not changed by someone's beliefs.
     
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    And those born XO or XXY?
     
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    If they can rewrite the basic definitions of gender, imagine what other thoughts, definitions, or concepts they could redefine.

    Haven't we already discussed that, Bowerbird?

    Extremely rare exceptions do not define the rule.

    (By the way, if you have a Y chromosome, it makes you a male. Only in the case of chimerism, which involves a mix of separate genetic male and female cells, is the person truly a hermaphrodite; also there's androgen insensitivity syndrome but that's a different discussion)

    You seem to be trying to deflect and take things off topic. People like you never seem to want to discuss these things in a separate thread. It's always to try to derail threads and deflect.
     
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    "FatBack
    It's really not that hard... An adult female of the homo sapiens species. A woman will never have a penis, women always have vaginas.

    It's really not a trick question

    Izzy
    You're so wrong.
    Do read up before assuming.

    Izzy, 14 minutes ag
     
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    'Intersex'

    snip:


    'What does being intersex mean in my body?'

    Being intersex can present in about 40 different ways. The most common intersex traits include:

    • Combination of chromosomes: Everyone inherits sex-linked chromosomes from their parents. People who are male have XY chromosomes. People who are females have XX chromosomes. People who are intersex may have a mix of chromosomes, such as XXY. Or they may have some cells that are XY and some cells that are XX. Or they may have just one X chromosome (XO). Other combinations can occur too.

    • Mixed genitals and sex organs: A person who is intersex may have ovarian and testicular tissue (ovotestes). For example, you may have genitals that are associated with being assigned male at birth (AMAB), like a penis. At the same time, you may have internal reproductive anatomy or hormone levels more closely associated with being assigned female at birth (AFAB), like estrogen.

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/16324-intersex
     
  6. FatBack

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    They act like the exceedingly rare natural occurrence of a hermaphrodite somehow validates a man chopping off his junk and identifying as a woman.

    There is no circumstances under the Sun at any time in history or the future and to which a person can change their chromosomes
     
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    A man in a woman’s contest is a drag queen in a woman’s contest.
     
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    Science and nature itself has rewritten “basic biology”.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-58997-2
     
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    Good for you.
    I'll put you down in the category of science denier as well.

    But just for entertainment purposes only why don't you tell me what your definition of a woman is?
     
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    Defects and mutants. What words would you use to describe them? BTW, are they winning womens contests?
     
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    It's amusing how they are the ones who claim the other side are science deniers.

    There are MORE than a few logical inconsistencies there...
     
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    They are NOT “hermaphrodites”. And sex does NOT depend on chromosomes alone. 1.7% of the population are born “intersex” which is more common than red hair
     
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    So it is still in contrast to what you have said.

    So because it’s not happening quick enough for you do you believe the federal government should step in?
     
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    Tell me exactly what those conditions are and I'll tell you whether they are truly "intersex".

    Simply having a micropenis or being born with undescended testes doesn't make a you a female. Besides, I suspect the people born with these rare conditions are not the ones trying to identify as females.

    I suspect that statistic of yours is also counting the condition of gynecomastia (male growth of partial breast tissue), which is absolutely ridiculous.
    That's a disorder. 99% of males with that condition don't want it.
     
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    Always has been but I will amend - a contest can best look like the white male cultural ideal of a “woman”
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    PS the last image is captioned “Miss Universe winners from Asia” and even with that field how many are actually of classical “Asian” appearance?
     
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    Again, how many of those 1.7 people are winning contests in woman’s events?
     
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    Her “events” seem to coincide with incidents that would cause more donations into her fund - just saying
     
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    Who knows? How many labelled “transgender” are really intersex? I.e. abnormality in the SRY gene, CA.I.S.or any of hundreds of physiological and developmental abnormalities that underpin intersex?
     
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    Sounds like a page taken out of blm’s playbook.
     
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    No,
    You too need to read up on differences.
    Drag Queens do not equate to being transgender.
     
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    Given the sheer amount of both that the women entrants themselves undertake I view none of them as “real” women. I also truly doubt this lass would ever win

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    upload_2023-10-14_14-51-15.jpeg

    Every single time.
     
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    Trump. There, I did it for you.

    If you believe in god or evolution, is it possible that either one would allow this?
     
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    Oh! Boo Hoo! There is a “miss black America” so all the white men are now disadvantaged? Tell you what how about you give me a percentage count of all the truly dark skinned women who have won miss universe?
     

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