Trump fire pandemic response team 2 years ago with no replacement.

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  1. Cal-Pak

    Cal-Pak Active Member

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    We have 62 at last count.
    But we only have tested 459.
    China can do about 1.5 million test a week.
    South Korea have tested 65,000 people so far.

    What do you think is going to happen when we increase the number of people we test?
    We are not even looking for it yet.
    How many people have it, and can spread it, but are showing no symptoms of it?

    How do you react to people who are coughing in public?
     
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    Anti-Trump virus thread #36.
     
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    You said it yourself, Obama put together the team to tackle the Ebola outbreak. So a team put together to respond to the Ebola pandemic would/should be the same group of experts to address the Corona virus? I am not medical expert, but I would assume that each pandemic would require very particular set of expertise/experience/skills, and having a catch all pandemic response team on standby does not seem to be the best and more efficient way to respond. Relating this to something I do know a bit more about, it would be like having a group of NASA engineers on standby to respond to any engineering type of crisis, for example a oil spill similar to the Deepwater Horizon disaster . I am sure the NASA engineers could figure it out, but wouldn't it be much better and more efficient to pull together a team of leading experts/engineers whose experience and expertise are directly related to the oil industry/technology? The time it would take for the NASA engineers to get smart on the oil industry tech far outweighs the time it would take to pull together a team of experts. Same goes for Ebola and Corona, two very different viruses.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong, sorry.

    They were not ebola experts. They weren't experts in any specific disease, they were experts regarding how to coordinate response to ANY epidemic or pandemic. When they weren't needed for that, they continued working their "day jobs." They were not ... repeat NOT ... on continuous, idle, stand-by. In 2018, Trump dismantled this response network, so now they are having to scramble to put a response coordination together. Thus far, it's hard to tell if the left hand knows what the right hand is doing, and the response to this virus is therefore uncoordinated to put it nicely.

    If you're fine with a science denier like Mike Pence, who couldn't handle an HIV outbreak as governor of Indiana, in charge of our response to this pandemic, good for you. I'm not fine with it, not even close. Trump is incompetent, Pence is incompetent, and both of them are still claiming that we need not worry and that the severity of this virus is a Democratic hoax to make Trump look bad, something he does daily without any help. Meanwhile, Americans are starting to die.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm perfectly fine with Pence being the one to compile and communicate information from our diverse team of experts. The task force, as a group, are giving daily updates to the public. They're doing a great job.
     
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    I disagree, but so be it.

    Consider: in 2014 when tens of thousands of people in West Africa contracted ebola, thecObama administration's response team kep U.S. exposure to one person, a volunteer who had been over there helping and had been exposed. Do you see the difference?

    One example, then I'll let you get back to blissful denial. When the few hundred Americans who were quarantined on the Diamond Princess docked in Yokohama, Japan were removed to buses and taken to airplanes to be brought home, 24 of them were already infected. The experts at CDC adamantly begged Trump not to put those 14 on the same plane as the uninfected. They did it anyway. That was extremely stupid and showed the invompetence and unpreparedness of this administration.

    Okay, my rant is done. You can go back to sleep now.

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  7. LoneStarGal

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    So when is the emergency money going to be appropriated by the House to fight this "horrifically" urgent virus?

    Various committees of Nancy's House spent a week grilling Sec. Azar for almost 8 hours a day. That had him sitting in hearings instead of working on the virus answering questions like whether he agreed that calling the virus a "China virus" was potentially racist and if he would promise to refrain from saying "China" and "virus" back-to-back. [Yes. Certainly. Yes, he would.]

    He was only there to request $2.5 Billion for virus response to get through the end of this fiscal year, not get grilled for 5 days. Then they told him he should have over $8 Billion. Okay. He said the experts didn't think they needed more than what he requested, but whatever. It's always easy for Democrat House Reps to spend. It's not their money.

    No big hurry though.

    Have they approved the requested money yet to "save America" from certain plague and death? No. They had to take the weekend off. This is an election year after all and they had important campaigning to do.

    It's Tuesday and I don't see any emergency money for the virus out of the House yet. Waiting. Meanwhile, as the left here emotes, "People are dying!!!!!" Arrrgggghhhh! We're all going to die, and it's Trump's fault!

    Maybe Nance will sit on the appropriations vote for virus cash like she sat on the "Urgent" impeachment articles. One week? One month? After the election maybe?


    Waiting....Nancy...Waiting.... She "hopes" to vote this week.

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    Before the GOP starts throwing stones, maybe Nancy figures "what's the use"?

    House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republicans are ignoring them

    https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump
     
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    Sure. What is the use? It's ALL politics isn't it?

    No hurry on funding a potential epidemic (which is more like a severe cold or mild flu). Just tell the public that "People will die"" and it's Trump's fault, then sit on appropriations as long as you feel like it.

    If she doesn't vote on the cash, Trump will find the money elsewhere, like he did for border security. Who needs Cranky Nancy road blocking health and security anyway?
     
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    Looks like the House is talking today about funding close to $8.5 Billion they wanted to fund Azar's request for $2.5 Billion for U.S. Coronavirus response.

    Request: $2.5 Billion

    Schumer boasted that the final figure is far closer to a benchmark he set last week when outlining an $8.5 billion plan.

    House is padding extra money to spend on additional expenses over the requested $2.5 Billion for American viral response on items such as:
    • Helping foreign countries battle the outbreak overseas (because government charity begins abroad)
    • Seeking to ensure that the vaccine is affordable when it's ready, which could take a year (because your insurance which probably covers preventative vaccines 100% isn't enough)
    • Funding for energy assistance to low-income households (because there's nothing like free electricity for some people to wipe out a virus).
    Anyway it looks like we citizens were granted the $2.5 Billion the country needs in order to focus on this virus for the remainder of the fiscal year, and the House enjoyed another wallow: rolling around in a barrel of taxpayer pork fat. It's not their money. Who cares, right?
     
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    LOL! Politicians ... the only emergency to them seems to be staying in power. Too busy keeping their jobs to actually do their jobs. McConnell is the worst, IMO, because the House passed hundreds of bills in their first year, almost all of which are gathering dust in Moscow Mitch's IN box. And most of these bills were passed via bi-partsan votes, some actually written and sponsored by Republicans. I hope he loses re-election. Kentucky deserves better.
     
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  12. liberalminority

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    they are sore losers, they created a pandemic because their pandemic team was fired by President Trump
     
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