Trump indicates he'd testify in hush money trial, says a conviction could 'make me more popular'

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  1. MiaBleu

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    Well, little toddlers do have to have their naps ;-) Too much stimulation ;-) OTOH.......could just be avoidance behavior.
     
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    No he didn't...
     
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    Outside of New York City where there are fewer radical chic Democrats would be a start. Such Democrats want socialism, but they want it posed on others, not them, as they live in their posh upper east side condos and co-ops.
     
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    I love.... the left just does not get it.... they are just making Trump stronger

    One of the best campaign promotions Trump could get.....

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    IF the justice system is as corrupt as you imply, that means the entire systemic structure that should hold society civil , is fragile and unreliable. That implies that the nation is heading into unpredictable chaos.as system structures deteriorate.

    IF that is the case: one cannot say that this country is a nation of laws.
    The thing that is obvious.......is that Trump is testing the limits of the system with his attitude and actions. We will see if the legal boundaries can hold solid against his destructive force.
     
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    The one thing anyone can count on is that Trump will spin any situation, no matter how unpleasant, to HIS advantage......and then sell it as a slogan to his disciples as HIS "truth". The difference is that the tadeonal Republicans and Dems are still grounded in reality. The MAGA segment has its own ideology now based on what Trump spins. New Yorkers have lived with the Trump saga for decades. They KNOW of what they speak and think. And they are no fools.
     
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    If you think Judge Merchan/daughter represent a prime "conflict of interest" then no doubt you think SCOTUS Clarence Thomas should resign cause nothing screams "coi" like Thomas and wifey Ginni in cahoots.
     
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    Absolute proof that the "Great American Experiment" has failed.

    A Prior American President who's now the current Republican Presidential nominee campaigns for the 2024 presidency on the 88 criminal charges against him in his four cases - two in federal courts and two in state courts.
     
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    Who cares... if you are implying the NY jury is already biased then this will be any unfair trial...
    What matter is the American voters, and they are not falling for this garbage...
     
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    Diversions don’t let you off the hook. That New York Judge is a crook who is violating his vows of ethics. He has no ethics. He is a partisan politician in a black robe. His actions undermine respect for the courts. In New York City, the courts and the DA are jokes. They are Democrat politicians.
     
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    And if he's found guilty?

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    What then?
     
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    Oh, ffs!
    For starters:
    Trump/lawyers can just stop wasting Merchan's and the courts time with desperate filings.


    "Merchan said that he would not yet rule on Donald Trump's request to not have the trial held that day."

    "It really depends on if we are on time and where we are in the trial," Merchan explained."

    "After court adjourned Monday afternoon, Trump complained to reporters.

    "As you know, my son is graduating from high school and it looks like the judge will not let me go to the graduation of my son, who has worked very, very hard," Trump told reporters Monday afternoon. "He was looking forward, for years, to that graduation with his mother and father there, and it looks like the judge isn't going to allow me to escape this scam."
     
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  13. MiaBleu

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    With respect: Do you speak for ALL American voters.
    This is a legal issue. The idea is to try and keep it as apolitical as possible.
    Evidence , FACTS, are the critical factors in the legal system. It matters little if the defendant is likeable or unlikeable. The jurors have a tough job at any time .but in such a hi profile case.. it will be stressful. The concerning part too, is will there be threats against them as there are against the Judge and others in that team. Those threats come from one group only and indicate a serious deterioration of society and civility. These kinds of threats to people doing their best to maintain law / order is a very negative example to the world.
     
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    Even if he is found guilty, his poll numbers will rise as the MAGA group will not abandon him. They will just say what Trump says. "the whole thing was rigged against him" No one can penetrate that kind of fixed delusion.
     
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    I was never on the hook, you are and your claims about Merchan/daughter are a "conflict of interest."

    Trump again asks hush money judge to recuse himself less than two weeks before trial starts
    His lawyers cited Judge Juan Merchan's daughter's job at a company that does work for Democratic candidates as the main reason he should step aside.'

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    "Merchan, who gave Trump's attorneys permission to file the motion, rejected a similar argument by Trump's lawyers in August of last year. In that decision, the judge said he'd sought guidance from the state courts system’s Advisory Committee on Judicial Ethics over his daughter’s employment.

    The committee found the DA’s case “does not involve either the judge’s relative or the relative’s business, whether directly or indirectly. They are not parties or likely witnesses in the matter, and none of the parties or counsel before the judge are clients in the business. We see nothing in the inquiry to suggest that the outcome of the case could have any effect on the judge’s relative, the relative’s business, or any of their interests.”



    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-asks-hush-m
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  16. Izzy

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    Looks like his numbers won't rise if convicted if these new polls are to be beloved.

    The deeply deluded Trumpers would need years of de-programming so they'd vote for Trump even if he did his "5th Avenue".


    Forbes
    A Hush Money Conviction May Cost Trump The Election—Even Though Many Voters Don't Care: Here's What Polls Show
    8 hours ago


    Time Magazine
    In Hush-Money Trial, Trump's Election Is at Stake
     
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    You don't have a clue... American voters see the double standards and will vote accordingly...
     
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    You'd think it was the judge who had the affair while his wife was pregnant. You'd think it was the judge who said, "Grab 'em by p****" on the Access Hollywood tape. You'd think it was the judge who didn't want any further damaging sexual innuendos to be revealed, so the judge paid his lawyer some legal fees which were used to pay off a porn star. You'd think it was the judge who rented a NYC apartment for his sexual partner, while his wife was pregnant, and had his lawyers promise her a promising career.
     
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    With all due respect the guy was always on borrowed time, with his sordid history.
     
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    Yep!
    Stormy should be the "Star Witness"
    Last one to testify for the prosecution.


    'Stormy Daniels is 'most important person' jury will hear from in hush money trial'




     
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    Trump should kiss Judge Merchan's ass, he could have allowed the tape and/or audio.



    'Judge in Trump's hush money trial allows prosecutors to discuss 'Access Hollywood' tape, affair allegations'
    Source: NBC News

    April 15, 2024, 7:00 AM EDT / Updated April 15, 2024, 2:40 PM EDT


    Donald Trump is making history Monday as the first former president to stand trial on criminal charges, a watershed moment for American politics, the presidential election and Trump himself.

    Trump — the presumptive Republican nominee for president — is required to be present for the entire trial, which could last as long as eight weeks. He’s pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records, a low-level felony punishable by up to four years in prison. Before the trial kicked off with jury selection Monday, lawyers from both sides argued over some of the more sensational evidence that prosecutors are hoping to use to show why Trump was eager to bury negative stories about himself during the 2016 presidential election.

    “The name of this case is the People of the State of New York versus Donald Trump,” Judge Juan Merchan told the initial group of 96 potential jurors in the afternoon. Trump stood and turned around when he was introduced as the defendant, and gave the prospective jurors — some of whom were staring at him intently — a little tight-lipped smirk.

    Trump had his eyes closed for a period of time as the judge was reading the potential jurors his instructions, and his eyes looked red and bloodshot when he opened them and peered at the judge.'

    Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...oney-trial-new-york-jury-selection-rcna145938
     
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    snip:
    "The prosecutor said he also hoped to elicit information about the timing of Trump's alleged affair with another woman whom the Enquirer paid to keep quiet ahead of the election, former Playboy model Karen McDougal. Steinglass said they didn't plan to elicit "salacious details," but did want to note that the timing of the alleged affair was while Melania Trump was pregnant with Trump's child and the baby was a newborn. He said the information was relevant because it showed why Trump wanted to suppress it ahead of the election.

    The judge said he'd allow testimony about the alleged affair, but not the information about Melania Trump.

    Steinglass also asked Merchan to reconsider his earlier ruling that the jury not hear the notorious "Access Hollywood" tape, on which Trump was caught on a hot mic saying he can grope women without their consent because "when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."


    Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...oney-trial-new-york-jury-selection-rcna145938[/QUOTE]
     
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    Trump wanting to protect Melaina was proved to be BS.
    Did the reporter get it wrong because that is not the prosecutors rebuttal to Trump's Melania/family defense?

    'Trump wanted to avoid Stormy Daniels hush money payment by delaying it past election, DA alleges'

    'Trump told his then-lawyer that if they could hold off on the transaction, then they wouldn't have to pay at all, because "at that point it would not matter if the story became public," according to Bragg.'



    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/05/tru...void-stormy-daniels-hush-payment-da-says.html
     
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    Exactly...
    Hard to imagine he lasted this long...
     
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