Trump is a threat to US National Security. Biden is not.

And Trump, with the exact same military, would have done better? Don't make me laugh.

At least Biden had the COURAGE to make difficult choice. Trump was a COWARD.

 

THe middle east has been a complexity for thousands of years.

The waters were muddied long ago. So, that argument doesn't wash.

This idea that Obama would intentionally arm Al Qaeda ir ISIS is absurd, but it makes a nice right wing echo chamber talking point.

If you want to argue unintended consequences, that's a fair argument, but when it comes to the middle east, it's not really that big of a black mark, given thousands of years long contentious chaotic atmosphere of hundreds of quarreling factions that the middle has been and still is.

Let's not forget that in a Republican controlled house, Gabbard's legislation didn't make it out of committee, and she has been a veritable darling to the right, definitely a turncoat as a dem.

 

RFKjr clearly is trying to get Trump to nominate him for his VP slot, which would put RFKjr in a good position for the presidential election in 2028. Looks to me that he has sold his soul to the devil.

Should Trump nominate him, which I doubt he would do, but if he did, he wouldn't have a loyalist, that is certain.

I wish that Trump would, because should Trump be convicted, RFKjr is the kind of man who is not afraid to do a 25th amendment on Trump. As crazy as RFK is, I'd rather have him as prez than Trump, at least RFKjr doesn't get into pettiness and hate rhetoric. He's a better man, though wrong on a number of issues.

 

What the voters need to do is keep Biden in the White House and not allow Trump to cause any more trouble. I think that's a good solution to think about. I don't want to see Trump being President anymore and I mean it.

 

We only know what did happen and what did happen was a disaster. All under Biden's watch. No such disaster happened under Trump's watch.

 

What nonsense!

 

Trump's entire presidency was a disaster.

COVID-19 Pandemic Response: Critics argue that the Trump administration's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic was inadequate, pointing to delayed responses, misinformation, and a lack of a coherent national strategy as contributing to the United States' high case and death counts.

Climate Change Policies: Trump's decision to withdraw the United States from the Paris Climate Agreement and roll back numerous environmental protections was met with significant criticism from environmentalists and scientists, who argued that these actions would exacerbate climate change and harm global efforts to reduce carbon emissions.

Immigration Policies: The implementation of the "Zero Tolerance" policy, which led to the separation of children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border, was widely condemned both domestically and internationally. Critics labeled it a humanitarian disaster.

Economic Tariffs: Trump's use of tariffs, particularly against China, as part of his trade policy led to a trade war that impacted global markets and raised prices for American consumers and businesses. Some economists and critics consider the impacts of these tariffs to be detrimental to both the U.S. and global economies.

Handling of Racial Tensions and Civil Unrest: Trump's responses to racial tensions and civil unrest, particularly in the wake of the George Floyd protests in 2020, were seen by some as exacerbating divisions and failing to address underlying issues of racial injustice and police brutality.

Foreign Policy and Diplomatic Relations: Certain actions and statements by Trump regarding NATO, North Korea, Iran, and other international matters were criticized for undermining U.S. alliances, emboldening adversaries, and contributing to global instability.

Capitol Riot on January 6, 2021: Trump was impeached for a second time by the House of Representatives on charges of "incitement of insurrection" related to his role in the events leading up to and on January 6, 2021, when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. This event was widely seen as a direct attack on U.S. democracy.

 

What I think I am is irrelevant.

All that IS relevant is to debate various articles, ideas, opinions, events, etc.
The caliber the argument doesn't matter, as long as you state your case.

But all you is admonish for even trying. That's not an argument.
I hate to tell you this, but no one is under any obligation to keep you happy.

If you don't like the caliber of the thread, then don't post.

Using your logic:

The Bible sucks.

The Federalist papers suck.

The Constitution sucks.

Your average magazine article sucks.

You know what else sucks?

Your logic.

 

Then why does the majority of the US citizens prefer Trump over Biden? The economy. The border. Fewer deaths to Covid under Trump.

 

Really? Nonsense? Over 20 deaths in BLM riots. Billions of dollars in damages.

 

That's fake news. Your problem is that your claim is wrong, and RFK is right.

'a 2020 U.S. appeals court found that the program Mr. Snowden had exposed was unlawful, and that the U.S. officials who had publicly defended it weren’t telling the truth.'

'RFK Jr. Reveals Petition to Have Snowden Pardoned'

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...tleblower-edward-snowden-if-elected-president

RFK doesn't share your hysteria. He views neither as threat to National Security, though if you have to pick as a threat, it would be Bribed Joe because of his suppression of free speech and trying to jail his opponents.

Voters strongly prefer Trump on National Security over Bribed Joe.

The Daily Mail:

'To test confidence in each of the two candidates, J.L. Partners polled 1005 likely voters on how they thought Biden and Trump would handle everything from national security crises to simply remembering aides’ names.'

Bribed Joe can't keep straight who his wife is and who his sister is.

'56 percent of respondents said they had confidence in Trump to make ‘decisions and be fully alert during a nuclear emergency,’ only 45 percent said the same thing of Biden.'

Bribed Joe now has stability shoes that don't need to be tied.

'Almost two-thirds said they trusted Trump to make it through a one-hour meeting with Russian strongman Vladimir Putin, but only 43 percent thought Biden could manage it.'

Bribed Joe needs cue cards.

'Trump, said respondents, was much more likely to remember the names of key staff, beating Biden by 15 points.'

'voters say strength is Trump’s biggest asset, and that he is more physically strong and able to get things done than Biden. “



I don't think that Dems can steal a state where Trump leads by 4 points or more.

Trump still needs PA, or, WI, or MI.



If you have to pick one or the other as the greater threat to National Security, Voters and RFK agree, the far greater threat is Bribed Demented Joe.

 

Fake news

 

Trump tied Biden's hand with the taliban he kicked out the Afghan government. Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David.

Trump didn't have the courage to pull out and if he did he would have done it with the same military as Biden had.

This idea that Trump is better is complete bullshit

 

Biden knew from the start that Taliban was moving quickly seizing territory even before his inauguration. He sat with his thumb up his a**. He ordered no contigency withdrawal plans. His action/inaction resulted in a faster cluck operation that embarrassed American and left billions of dollars of military supplies and equipment behind.

 

Nice monday morning QBing. Nice spin.

But Biden, with the sh*tty hand he was dealt, had the courage to pull us out of Afghanistan. Trump paid lip service to it, and deliberately dealt Biden a bad hand so that guys like you could bellyache about it.

The long and short of it is this:

1. Trump is a coward for paying lip service about getting us bout but didn't have the courage to do it, he kicked the can to Biden because HE KNEW IT WAS RISKY AND DIDN"T WANT TO END HIS PRESIDENCY WITH WHAT HE SAW COMING. .
2. Biden is not. BIDEN HAD THE COURAGE TO GET US OUT.

 

He did no such thing. Trumps goal was a power sharing arrangement and Trump was dealing from a relative position of strength because we still had Bagram Airbase. Under Trump there would never have been a withdrawal because the Taliban much like current DNC were never going to agree to an actual power sharing arrangement. And in any case any withdrawal should have been conducted through Bagram which had a more defensible perimeter and would have kept both the Afgani fighters and the airsupport they couldn't function without on hand for a much longer period of time.

 

That there is a pantload See previous response. The lefts insipid attempt to rewrite history regarding this is not one of there better moments.

 

Again a complete misunderstanding of the actual situation. Trump didn't make the choice not because he was a coward but because the prerequisites for the withdrawal were never met. Biden just said to hell with the prerequisites lets just leave. And his political generals did so in the most feckless available manner. And again the only question here is whether they did it out of spite or because they really are that damn incompetent.

 

You used John Bolton as an expert. John Bolton said that Biden is a greater danger to national security.

 

Trump is a threat to US National Security. Biden is not.
The guy who supports and even abets a literal foreign invasion of the United States, and who also is the commander in chief, is not a threat to our national security??? Wow! Just Wow!

 

Has Trump denied this yet and said he hardly knows the guy? LOL

For starters:
Who in hell would want a president that said he needs to attend 7-9 AA/NA meetings a week to remain sober/not using?

'Robert F Kennedy Jr claims Trump had asked him to be running mate'
Source: The Guardian

Mon 15 Apr 2024 16.37 EDT


'Robert F Kennedy Jr, the prominent conspiracy theorist and independent presidential candidate, claimed on Monday he had turned down an offer from Donald Trump to be his running mate for the White House.

The assertion followed the launch earlier in the day of a website attacking Kennedy, published by a pro-Trump political action committee called Make America Great Again Inc (Maga Inc).

Accusing Kennedy, 70, of being a “leftist radical”, the vitriolic website attempts to highlight what it says are his extremist liberal positions, including supporting a 70% rate of income tax and pledging he would sign an assault weapons ban. Poking fun at the famous political dynasty’s fondness for middle initials, shared by assassinated relatives including his uncle John F Kennedy, and father Robert F Kennedy, the website is titled “Radical F-ing Kennedy”.

In response, Kennedy, who has blended outlandish theories about Covid-19 with a long history of racism, antisemitism and xenophobia, posted on X, formerly Twitter, to make his own claims. “President Trump calls me an ultra-left radical. I’m soooo liberal that his emissaries asked me to be his VP. I respectfully declined the offer,” he wrote.'

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/15/robert-f-kennedy-jr-trump-presidential-running-mate