Trump's military put into perspective

I served and I talk to people who are serving. They appreciate what Trump has done for the military. They are less concerned about what he might have said or or did not say.

 

And, hot air criticism is not limited to the civilian world. Trump has great support from within the military, and no doubt critics. After all, members of the military have political biases too, we can't expect all of them to be rational, all to see things one way. Personal hate and bias tends to over-ride the basics of good judgement wherever it's found.

You may have served while Trump was president; that hardly gives you any insight to the effect of his changes at the top level. Unless of course you were assistant to one of the joint chiefs of staff?

Right.

 

Actually being in the military can serve to narrow ones perspective and make you incapable of seeing the big picture.

 

Yes because the generals in the pentagon are the ones who fight and win wars correct? Your argument is nullified and inaccurate. Please reevaluate your stance and come better prepared next topic you are ill informed on this one

 

If you go back and actually read what I said, you will find that I said that two years ago, it was back up to 75%.

And because they are down by 25% does not mean they are not working. They are most likely working harder. Much of the problem was parts. When they run short of parts, they are forced into cannibalization which is something the military really hates to do because it requires more than twice the work to replace one part.

 

You clearly didn't read anything I said.

A unit is declared non-deployable due to lack of training or resources. A unit must maintain a qualifying combat score at NTC in order to become deployable. Many units fail because they have deaths during training which is an automatic failure. Many units have junior enlisted soldiers that can't perform basic squad movements. When you say they aren't working that tells me you know nothing and completely disregarded my insight to the military and how many soldiers feel because you want it to be your way and any other information that doesn't support your narrative is not of use to you. I no longer wish to speak to a person that will not take information from a vet that is telling you how things really are. I get the air force is more relaxed that's why they are called chairforce throughout the rest of the military due to lack of physical standards and lack of combat involvement. Most of the air force is filtered through the civilian sector anyways.

 

Please explain this nonsense

 

And clearly you did not read what I said. I said the Air Force was back up to 75% two years ago. And they are working just as hard when they are non-combat ready. Just keeping what equipment they can operational requires twice as much effort. They train with equipment which is not up standard which is dangerous and defeats the purpose of training.

In general, I am proud of my fellow services and would never denigrate any of them. <COMMENT EDITED>

 

that is not what you said. And this is where I see you have zero qualifications or knowledge to discuss military topics. Please be dismissed, many service members look down on other branches and you would know that if you actually knew anything you are trying to talk about. It is apart of the military culture..... please go away I’m an highly disappointed in you

 

It is internal ranks way to keep competition and to feel pride in their branch... why must you always argue but have zero knowledge of what you are arguing?

 

I think we all know China is not paying the tariffs. Don't we?

 

I served twenty years. Retired as a major and served a year in Vietnam.

It may be part of military culture, but it is not part of my military culture. I served with the Army in Heidelberg German and with the Navy in Operation Deep Freeze and have learned to appreciate both.

 

20 years and you retired as major? something doesn't add up. Then you claim to have all this top secret knowledge and experience? Then you mention vietnam? So if that's the case you haven't served in todays military and you don't even seek to actually learn about it? Then you say it's not apart of your culture as if you speak for the rest of the military, you should understand the military is bigger than ones self but here you go making it all about you. I'm sorry but I have to disregard your resume, as I don't believe it

 

Umm... Yeah I think we do.
Not that it's related to the point of our conversation.

 

From my understanding officers paid more attention to detail.

When I said the air force is called chairforce, that is a fact, when I said the air force has lower physical standards that was a fact. when I said they lack combat involvement that was a fact. No where in that statement did I mention anything about me or how I feel, but you feel frustrations so you choose to lash out and demonize my character by making an assumption. That is not very professional major. I would expect more out of someone to have as much experience as you say you do

 

I would have liked to have done better, but that is the way it goes. I served in Vietnam fifty three years ago. No I have not served in todays military. I retired from the Air Force forty one years ago.

I keep up with the military. I visit a couple of Air Force bases periodically. I have friends and relatives in the military.

I have not made it "all about me". When I talk about something in which I have personal experience, I explain that personal experience. I have elaborated more than normal because no matter what I say, you claim I know nothing about it. I suspect I know more about the military and how all the services operate than you ever will. In short I have been there and I have done that.

 

Your professionalism is really showing major.

The statement you just made was very uninformed as I have stated many facts but because it doesn't serve your narrative you say that I'm uniformed. I don't argue you have a few air force contacts that believe the military is good. There are many in the army as well, but MOST do not. You will always have polarization but what matters is the majority not a few. Over half of the military would not be unsatisfied with trump if he was doing so great for todays army. Again I'm not discrediting your service but it has no relevance to todays military. In fact it hurts what the military is trying to do because individuals of old are saying in my day it was good. NOBODY CARES

 

I am really good friends with my old BC and he made LTC in todays army and actually is getting promoted to COL on 01102020 as he serves as deputy chief of staff for an infantry division and he is even fed up with Trump. Keep in mind this man also vouched for me to join the FBI so he is squared away

 

You are the one who has done all the insulting. I have not insulted you a single time. I only feel frustration at your total lack of understanding.

The army is called a lot of things, but I choose not to. It is pointless and I generally like and respect all services. We are not in competition. We work together for a common goal.

I guess I did not realize getting shot at a half dozen times with recoiless rifles and mortars was not combat involvement. The only difference was that I could not shoot back.

The Air Force relies on brains rather than brawn.

 

“I think our tariffs are very good for us,” he told reporters on the way to Air Force One before flying to the G-7 Summit in France. “We’re taking in tens of billions of dollars. China is paying for it.”

 

Again a select few or certain group does not equate the whole. That's what I have noticed about many trump supporters is the only look at a select few and assumes that is applicable to the whole. The majority of the air force does not see combat. The majority of the military does not like trump. The majority of the US is not doing well financially. Pay attention the whole not the few.

 

Thank you for finding that, I didn't have the patience to do it for him

 

They are Trumpers. They only care about themselves.

 

It's sad that an entire country can be crying out for help and they will be like what's wrong with them they need to work harder. I just don't understand how someone can fail it's so easy to succeed and we are just the greatest.

They are so oblivious to what's happening around them

 

Where did I indicate any of that?

It is not my experience that the majority of the military does not like Trump. The majority of the people I know are doing well. This pandemic is taking its toll, but they are generally doing fine. I am referring to the middle class people who surround me.

Most likely true. However, I experienced my share.