Turkey Leaks Secret Locations of U.S. Troops in Syria

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    Ankara has long been angered by the alliance between Washington and Kurdish factions. But a new report exposing secret American bases is a dangerous way to strike back.

    ISTANBUL—In the latest display of Turkish anger at U.S. policy in Syria, the state news agency has divulged the locations of 10 U.S. military bases and outposts in northern Syria where the U.S. is leading an operation to destroy the so-called Islamic State in its self-styled capital of Raqqa.

    The list published by the Anadolu news agency points to a U.S. presence from one end to the other of the Kurdish self-administration region—a distance of more than 200 miles. The Anadolu news agency even listed the number of U.S. troops in several locations and in two instances stipulated the presence of French special forces.

    Turkey has openly criticized the Trump administration—and the Obama administration before it—for relying in the battle against ISIS on a militia led by Kurds affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers Party or PKK. A separatist movement now at war with Turkey, the PKK has been listed by the U.S., EU, and Turkey as a terror organization.

    To avoid the appearance of allying with such a group, the U.S. military set up the Syrian Democratic Forces, which have a large component of Arab recruits. But they are led by officers from the People’s Protection Units (YPG), the Syrian affiliate of the PKK.

    Although Turkey’s powerful president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, regularly vents his anger at the U.S., it is still highly unusual for a NATO ally to reveal details of a U.S. military deployment during active operations in a war zone. But the U.S. operation in Syria is in many respects an unusual case. Not only is the United States acting against the express wishes of NATO ally Turkey, which says its national security is directly endangered, it’s also operating without the permission of the Assad regime.

    After a meeting Monday evening, Turkey’s National Security Council charged that weapons provided to the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia had come into the possession of the PKK. “This shows that both are the same organization,” it said, adding that other countries were using a “double standard” for terror groups, an apparent reference to the U.S. alliance with the YPG militia.

    SOURCE: http://www.thedailybeast.com/turkey-leaks-secret-locations-of-us-troops-in-syria

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    Thanks Trump... Now you made Turks angry and they seriously threaten American existence in Syria from almost all directions (diplomatically, militarily, now through media publications). I hope you're happy to lose an ally of such importance. If only you merely lost them and that was it, but the case we got here is much worse than it seems. Turks are now with ""RUSSIA"" ! They are about to buy S-400s. The agreement is done and it will be the ""first ever"" in the history of NATO I believe. Russia has agreed on Turks taking out YPG in Afrin canton. Turks, in exchange of that favor agreed on Russia having deployments to crucial locations in Aleppo. Syrian Arab Army started to hit YPG forces here and there despite their fighter jets got shot down by the USAF.

    Why???

    Well, what else do you expect when you keep sticking your nose to other countries' businesses, all of which are made of issues that ""somehow"" concerns their ""very existence"" on this planet... This ain't no joke dude, threaten Turkish existence and watch how they pull gun on the best and most frightening gunman in the world. Italians didn't cry like "mamma li turchi" for nothing.

    Behold the wolf !

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    Erdogan is signing Turkey's death warrant. I don't think that's the only thing he's mad about. Yesterday the American aircraft carrier 'blinded' the Turkish jets harassing the ship searching for oil and gas in the Cypriot waters. It was a warning.
     
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    Turkey is in Nato, and will continue to tow the Nato line, next.
     
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    Excellent news. Can we have a look at your S400 please, when you get it?
     
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    Wishful thinking! Erdogan will be made to heel. He always does, in that sense he's not dangerous. I doubt he will survive much longer... but I fear who comes after him.
     
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    I keep thinking the same thing. 'When they get it.' Somehow I don't their relationship with Russia will last that long.
     
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    well... that's a pretty shitty thing to do... is Turkey looking for conflict with the US?
     
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    I used to know a moron. She was all pro-Trump, the die heart GOP fan, telling people who didn't agree with her about Trump that they knew nothing, so they didn't understand how lucky the Americans were by having such good president in the White House, trying to make people believe Trump was the real chance for America and stuff. She got the support of bunch of fake surrogates too so they seemed they conquered the place they constantly vomit their crap at...

    What happened to all that? After 2 months or so, that ***** ****** ****** (actually here I was seriously attacking her by serious insults that she could not ever forget those 3 words till the end of her life but I forgive. Lucky her) got "blinded" by lack of vision and attempted to switch to anti-Trump. Yeeeesssss.... She started to say Trump was no good this time because Trump then got obviously captured by the deep state, but what cracked people up was the "time" it took her for actually being able to ""COMPREHEND"" what the heck was really going on. 2 months dude... 2 freakin months long she was all ""blind"" like you say the American ship blinded Turkish jets, covering Greece. Can you believe how moron she was? She found a stupid ass pro-Russian website called "The Durag" and been posting all nonsense analysis bunch of which appeared had been penned by her fake ass troll friends because nobody could be that stupid to share bullcrap like that unless wanting to praise them. How come it took that long for a person who's seemingly into politics a lot to """gather"""? Oh wayamin by the way, I love that word... As far as I gather... From what I gathered... Gather me here, and I gather you there... Let's get gathered... Whadevuh... Could it be due to the fact that she being an 80 year old bicth? Like lack of B12 would you say? Or the fact that her mom was a fat btich looking after her fat ass son who does nothing but like being the hippo in 2 ft square plastic pool at the back yard? Or the fact that she was the owner of the site and therefore having fun from time to time through those cute little stupid fake accounts she got? Who the hell knows? The fact of the matter will still be unchanged and that is, TURKS got big enough balls to pull gun on the strongest military in the solar system!

    But I digress... I appreciate the detail you have brought to my attention there Jeannette...

    Yes we do have fighter jets. I hope this confirmation was helpful. Thanks.

    Regards;
     
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    Well there are two dead Russain pilots that I dont see how Putin will forget about....
     
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    Turkiye is in NATO and it's membership becomes more "on-paper" one as we crack down on EU/US agents inside and see them more of a serious threat outside. Some Dagistanis like you don't understand. Next.

    Sure dude... I'll let you have a ride on it so you can see the geography we sit on much clearer from above.

    Why mommy?
     
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    because your username says goody... (slap on the wrist)
     
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    Do you think Germany's looking for a conflict with the US too? Because German BILD just reported that the US has been building a secret airbase in Ayn Al Arab, equal in size to 235 football fields. Not just this, they published the "satellite" photos of the base.

    What's happening mommy? I'm scared :(
     
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    FROM TURKISH AA:
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    That's different, the German free press publishing news, your thread title makes it sound like the Turkish leak was from government officials and deliberate

    is this where I spank you now?.. because the thought really appeals to me
     
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    Mom, please. I don't think BILD got those vital importance of satellite images from ""Kaiser's Supermarkt"" (my fav) No. They don't sell it there.

    Do you think "Axel Springer SE" is "libertardian"? .... lol...
     
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    Well it could be government leaks to connected journalists, look at the American white house...Britain doesn't even want to share intel anymore

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    Was it really that hard? Thanks... AA is "directly" government press tho.

    Here's the news from BILD:

    http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/donald-trump/trumps-secret-air-force-base-52553430.bild.html

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    What's interesting is tho, this news on BILD came ""AFTER"" AA released info about the locations of the US ""SPECIAL FORCES"" in detail. Plus, this airfield's location and condition were being discussed in ""alternative Turkish media"", on TV programs with political context well over "months ago".
     
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    I thought I recalled a secret airbase story/Kobane MMC posted about this previously with .... sniff... Litwin... I do miss him :(


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-syria-sources.441365/page-5#post-1065793128


     
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    I like MMC, despite I don't agree much of what he says. I must say that post is a full quote from Carnegie Endowment bullshit.

    I stopped reading where it said something like this:

    "PKK was really successful against ISIS. That and them being there up for battles against ISIS where nobody else was made them partners to the US"

    Well, although the smell of bullshit's there like nothing, this entire perspective actually explains why the US is scared shtless when it comes to going against Turks because they think this way:

    ""If PKK is strong enough to win battles against our very well trained teams in ISIS, and if Turks win battles against those strong PKK "guerrilla warfare" inside and outside Turkiye, not just up in the mountains but "in" the cities as well, then we must be really careful dealing with these Turks""

    I think that's exactly why their supposed coalition made of 60ish countries rather than supporting Turks in their battles against ISIS in first "Dabik" and then "Al-Bab", they allowed teams of ISIS terrorists travel safely from different parts of Syria, Raqqa in particular, to Al-Bab to back their terrorist friends losing badly against Turks.

    Like Russians said; ISIS is AMERICA !

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    Funny how nobody in Congress noted there were US troops in Syria. I thought our illustrious men and women in Congress controlled, or at least provided 'oversight' into what the Pentagon does. Silly me!

    I wonder if this knowledge will prompt them into fulfilling their constitutional obligations? Probably not. They are too busy playing grab-ass over what the Tweeter-in-Chief tweets.
     
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    I don't know if it's me that you're insulting or not, since it doesn't seem like it from what you're saying. What I do know is that I never said the American carrier was covering Greece, since it has nothing to do with Greece. ..except maybe in Erdogans paranoid mind. What I said was that the American aircraft carrier had blinded the jets that were harassing the oil and gas search ship in the Cypriot waters. They were too high to be reached by the French and Greek warships that are protecting the search vessel that belongs to the French company Total.

    Anyway Erdogan continues his suicidal actions which is great for Turkey's neighbors since he has alienated the US... I mean let's face it, they all hate Turkey. Now the brilliant one is forcing Germany to reconsider its investments and trade ...and is warning the Germans not to go there. What next?
     
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    There is a lot of anti Turkish history embedded in the Russian DNA. Had Britain not supported the Ottomans out of fear of Russia, Constantinople with its Christian majority at the time, would have been freed many, many decades ago. One of the subtle 'hints' from Putin to Erdogan after the pilots were shot down, was to change the usage of the name 'Istanbul' (which is a Turkish deviation from the Greek), and begin referring to it again as Constantinople.

    Constantinople is a sore point with Russia since it controls the straits. Turkey is forced to comply with the Montreaux Treaty which gives everyone free access, so Erdogan decided to build a canal as an alternative route with the excuse that the excessive traffic through the Bosporus is causing environmental problems.

    All that would be needed by Erdogan is a false flag oil spill to close off the Bosporus. Putin is not a stupid man...

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    I was wondering why Turkey would release the location of US forces unless they are the enemy???

    But then I saw the work Kurdish and I knew what this was about.

    The Turks are jealous of the USA's new favorite ally the Kurds, and this represents a direct threat to Turkey because when, not IF but WHEN, the Kurds declare their own state there's a good chance that they [the Kurds] are going to take a good portion of Turkey with them.
     
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    Is there any reason for the person depicted in my previous post addressed to you, "being you"? Please share if you see one.

    Some people are literally stupid. Like their brains can't process certain kind of information due to the incapability of marking the information set that makes sense and separate it from the one that actually doesn't. This happens when too much TV and other MSM sources are let flow like a river in those brain veins of crucial importance for feeding cells generating the real cognitive action there.

    Having said that, Erdogan, by whom once the airstrikes to Al Shayrat was welcomed, and then unfortunately(!) the war on America's proxies in Iraq and Syria was declared in the aftermath of 80 got killed in TSK airstrikes, is our guy. He started to be our guy in 2011 but he wasn't fully aware of it. 2012 made him understand better the internal political situation which was getting a little tougher for him to keep the car in the same direction as before. 2013 was devastating for this guy because the more he felt pressure from us for not complying with American spy cells like Fethullah/CIA, the greater the risk he took because as he didn't make a choice yet he first had to deal with Fethullah/CIA's attacks (Soros sparked Gezi protests) on the month of June of that year and then his entire family and government were shaken by scandalous wiretap records leaked to Turkish and world media. People thought it was Fethullah/CIA who wiretapped him that moment but nobody actually could answer why would they shoot themselves in the leg while they still had to rely on his government as his government had filled the state departments with all Fethullah/CIA spies and rendered them being at least the part of the establishment? What made Fethullah/CIA go for the last resort? Who wanted Erdogan and Fethullah/CIA get separated at the first place and then planned to tear their establishment down?

    2014 gave all the answers. First on March of this year, we demolished the prison cells the Fethullah/CIA - Erdogan partnership has put us all in by forged evidences in 2008, then he said on December: "He who chooses no sides (like being neutral) chooses to be out of the way (removal)". 2015 started like a big Ohio storm, we declared war on PKK while the EU was backing them with their decades old "human rights" tactics. When PKK terrorists were getting eliminated by dozens everyday, the human rights have suddenly become fragile enough to be violated even by the weakest summer breeze, but we were not being able to get any responds from our counterparts in EU when we were asking them where have those terrorists gotten their explosives and weapons from. We were exterminating PKK from almost every single hill, city, town, rural village no matter what the west said.

    November 2015, Putin said in Antalya summit that Russia would have to give a diplomatic "verbal" reaction if Turkiye was to start a military operation in Syria, ""but would actually not be willing to take any actions against Turkiye's actions"". This was said on November the 20th. Just 4 days after the meeting, on November 24 the Russian plane was shot down, eventually preventing us from entering Syria for almost a year (August 2016) long. We can get to the bottom of all conspiracies, including the ones in which Russians played a double game of some sort or the role of the Americans, but there's this one thing that will be staying out of all conspiracies forever: The downed plane did harm Turkiye. Period. So as soldiers of the homeland, neither us patriots nor Erdogan could've allowed such thing happen. Davutoglu was the man in charge as president, and as he declared openly after the incident, "he gave the order", then got fired by Erdogan within few months.

    2016 was a pretty good year for patriotic achievements. As I said Davutoglu was fired, then Erdogan made an official visit to Petersburg at the end of the spring and unlike the hopes and expectations of the west that plotted the plane incident, he apologized to Putin for the downed plane, and relations with our Russian friends started to improve from then on. Months later, the world witnessed the biggest American stupidity ever the history has recorded. American establishment in touch with other world powers thought we would pass a presidential system of the sort they may have had their control over in exchange of the abolition of "very well known" Fethullah/CIA spy cells. We've known we had to change the regime as the world has been on the verge of "updated" Westphalian terms, and the US has known they had to take their scums out of our land for good. That was the agreement. However, since America pushed for more as if they still were the only hegemony in the world, we started to drag feet for getting our part done because they had to understand getting their scums out of our country didn't mean they could mobilize them right on our borders under bunch of different names and pressuring neighbors for not allowing us to operate in the region to secure our own existence.

    American cowardice once again found the solution: Killing innocent police officers with a car-bomb containing a clear message that if we keep insisting on not abiding by the agreement the next target would be civilians in a very central location known world-wide, like a UEFA stadium full of civilians. We thought our NATO ally couldn't stoop lower than that and hurt civilians of an ally nation over their "fading" opportunities thousands of miles away from their homeland. Well, we were wrong. In less than 20 days, America's terrorists killed 39 innocent civilians in one of the most known night clubs of Turkiye and Europe called Reina. We could have gone where ever the hell takes us and resisted their bloody methods but didn't want to risk our citizens' lives. Thus we've set a date for referendum as the cunning btches of DC were insisting on us being the party fulfilling the obligations of the agreement "first". OK, it cost lives of many but eventually we got the control over our own country at last by having passed the presidential system with a percentage barely over 50%. That was a clear response from us to DC which read as; "51% marks the state manages itself". Why? Simple: 60% and above would have meant huge public support for the new system which would have formed a strong base for the west to manipulate "empty values" like democracy to get their guys elected as heads of state by easily bending the laws in a desired way. Therefore "the elected" would have ruled the country.

    But by manipulating the outcome of the referendum, by keeping it very close to the center, now we managed to have a strong base to bend the rules in "our desired way" and in turn rule "the elected" person regardless of whom he/she got the support of... Just as the US have been doing for decades, balancing the elected person when necessary by a stick of the "close percentage" of the lost party. If that is not effective enough to get the elected on the track -like the case the US had months ago- then through implementations from outside -like hitting an empty airbase, FON challenges, diplomatic threats to other countries, etc- the elected is made getting back on the desired track. So you thinking Erdogan doing something to Germany is just ludicrous. Turkiye is now, as in the good old days of the cold war, a serious state once again, and will definitely not act like a stupid NGO that steps back every time it gets threatened by "economic sanctions" for not listening the authority over it because we know NO authority on these soils other than Turkiye Cumhuriyeti ! What would you think of Russia had shown cowardice when the west threatened its security by dictating economic sanctions for what Russia has done in Ukraine? We won't let those spies sent here to start Meidan-type riots go nowhere. America says they can't do anything about what their law rules, same here dude... They're gonna have to wait until what our independent courts will decide. That's what democracy means... Sorry... :(

    You don't have to say Americans covering Greece, because the entire world knows they are number 1 in NATO contributions, they have been the good ole American puppet since 50's, serving America as American troops serve their country in foreign US military bases, they are the balancing tool used against Turkiye whenever it seeks other forces to ease and balance American pressure at home... Sure America will cover their asses regardless of what, particularly when they ""officially"" claimed ENOSIS for an Island that has not belonged to them ever in the history of man kind. ENOSIS according to fascist Greek junta governments of the past and of today means thousands of ethnic Turks/Muslims living there are not existing, therefore the entire island is Greece and in turn Turks of the island can be ethnically cleansed.
    All these do grow America's appetite for the opportunity here to be able to grab the entire eastern Mediterranean that Turkiye happens to have the ""longest"" shores to.

    That ENOSIS claim will have to disappear forever, Greece will have to get the fck back to the hole it popped out from, have to leave the Turkish islands that it occupied illegally (152 islands and islets) by starting a quick "disarming", have to shut down all military bases in the Aegean islands according to what all bilateral and international agreements the Greek seal has on "dictates". Maybe then, we will consider not "declaring Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) as 83rd province of Republic of Turkiye (TC)". I must say tho, such an option has never been this close to become a part of our real political strategic plans for the very near future ahead of us. When we were telling the Americans to stop arming, supporting and encouraging greek terrorists on the island because we didn't like our people getting massacred day and night by them, they were telling us to keep calm and obey. They sent "official" threat letters (Johnson's letter) to us not to do anything stupid. However, we had some unique realities and they happened to dictate themselves to the entire world when in 1974 "Aisha Went on Vacation" to Cyprus. Today again, we feel seriously pressured by the west building up threats right on our shores from both sides and we have even much greater determination compared to '74 to do what needs to be done at whatever the expense. American's experienced it in Sinjar and Karachok. Israelis experienced when we turned in their spies to Iran, EU experienced with refugee floods... To be honest, if I was a greek official, I'd be praying for Syrian deadlock keeps going for another decade because these Turks will have only one target once they eliminate the threats in there, and I really don't think that's a joke.
     
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    This is a military cardinal sin and Turkey ought to be creamed as much as we can.
    Turkey is becoming more and more islamist militant and probably don't belong in NATO.
    To blame this on Trump shows a nearsightedness and irrationality that is beyond comprehension
     

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