Two important trials

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whether they are ignorant or not.....they do the work. Break down law and order. Make the people cry out for "government protection". Defund the police. Appoint a "National Police Force". It's a slippery slope and no Marxist regime has ever come into power without support of the masses, including the commoners.
     
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    Communists, Fascists whatever.......it all takes an all empowered Central Government and they use poor revolutionaries (or today...mass looters) to get it started!
     
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    At this point the support for the use of national police -- FBI/UMS/armed troops is coming primarily from Republicans/"conservatives".

    The Bolsheviks were the minority - a tiny minority. A few anarchist sailors with submachine guns dissolved the Duma and cleared the way for Lenin. There was never a real mass movement behind the Communists. There was mass discontent in the Russian Empire.
    There is mass discontent here, and yes that is an environment professional revolutionaries and agitators can exploit.

    “As noted, the Bolshevik overtones are apparent throughout. The systems have crucial differences, but also striking similarities. Lippmann's "specialized class" and Bernays' "intelligent minority," which are to manage the public and their affairs according to liberal democratic theory, correspond to the Leninist vanguard of revolutionary intellectuals. The "manufacture of consent" advocated by Lippmann, Bernays, Niebuhr, Lasswell and others is the Agitprop of their Leninist counterparts. Following a script outlined by Bakunin over a century ago, the secular priesthood in both of the major systems of hierarchy and coercion regard the masses as stupid and incompetent, a bewildered herd who must be driven to a better world -- one that we, the intelligent minority, will construct for them, either taking state power ourselves in the Leninist model, or serving the owners and managers of the state capitalist systems if it is impossible to exploit popular revolution to capture the commanding heights.” Noam Chomsky, “Deterring Democracy,” (New York, 1991) p 371.
     
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    It only takes a small aggressive revolutionary vanguard to take down a government if, as in Russia, it can collapse the power structure with one quick stroke.
    I expressed these observations shortly after 1/6:

    "There were no revolutionaries in the Capitol. The violent vanguard, whoever they were, did nothing that could have conceivably captured the politicians in the building, and the "masses" that followed them through the doors are caught on video carefully staying within the still standing rope lines. Their naive behavior was as astonishing as the lack of any effective security in the capitol.
    A serious assault would have captured the entire Congress in minutes and toppled the government within an hour. How many new cabinet agencies have we created for this kind of security?
    Where were our 17 secret police/spy agencies - watching the Hallmark Network?"

    Now we know that our secret police were part of the crew that took down the barricades. Their identities remain a secret.
     
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