UK must accept free movement says EU

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  1. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    The UK imports far more from the EU than it exports to the EU. Therefore a trade war will harm the EU far more than it will harm the UK.

    Once again, England will beat Germany as in 1918, 1945 and 1966.
     
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    They know what they are doing.
    This is simple, the EU doesn't want to bend if the UK wants to be part of the single market.. but hey, there are many countries around the world that are not part of the single market and they trade just fine. This really is a non issue, but in the end the EU is going to have to bend as more and more countries appear to be gearing up to referendum on the issue.
     
  3. truth and justice

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    Talk about short sighted. Nothing has changed yet. The UK is still in the eu, still paying their contributions and still following the same rules and regulations that they were following last week. This will continue for two and half years more. Come back in two and half years and then give an opinion on whether the country is better or worse off - it is way too early to know!
     
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    If we keep our nerve they'll buckle in no time in order to stop the 'contagion'.

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    I suspect you'll find that our subs. will stop when we invoke Article 50. Talking of subscriptions - I wonder how Scotland will be able to afford theirs if they're as many squillions as ours were. Mebbe they haven't thought of that? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    But I didn't think it would be as soon as this . . .

    "Everything will be on the table in Brexit talks, says French minister. In the first hint that European leaders may be willing to discuss changes to the EU’s existing freedom of movement rules as part of a new relationship with the UK, the French finance minister Michel Sapin has said everything will be on the table in the future talks with the UK, including freedom of movement."

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics...he-table-in-brexit-talks-says-french-minister

    :cool:
     
  6. Gaius_Marius

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    Yes... And so will the money coming from the EU. Questions about that are already surfacing... Funny how the people who voted to leave also come from areas that receive most EU funds.
    They will probably realise that sooner or later.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628906

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...s-town-showered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale
     
  7. Socialism Works

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    We will get back the £180 million a week that currently goes straight into EU coffers and is never seen again
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah... That's the claim the leave campaign made. Unfortunately for you it seems they have all walked back on those promises too.
    Not to mention that it of course doesn't take into consideration the infinite benefits EU membership gives. But you will figure that out soon enough.

    Also... Let us not forget that you will still have to pay to access the single market as Farage has also admitted now.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/...e-british-contribution-to-eu-budget-1.2705165
     
  9. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two world wars and a football world cup as argumentation for why the UK can win a battle against 27 EU members?
    That inflated ego of yours really needs a beating. Oh wait... Did you miss England losing to Iceland? Did you miss the fact that the UK never managed to win anything outside one world cup at home? Oh yeah... You also seem to have forgotten that the UK was the lesser partner in both world wars and only won with help.

    Oh well... I am starting to understand why 52% voted leave.
     
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    you probably mean after the muslims invaded and took the midle east(outside arabia)we tryd to retake most of it
    any area outside arabia that is muslim today has had islam forced on it
     
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    The UK imports more but it is divided between 27 countries as are our exports. To each country not all that much. I think this is one of those sound bite slogans with little relevance.
     
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    Brits particularly look more like Jews to me, than like Polish.

    You know what Jews are they're basically light Middle Easterners, with only touches of Northern European.
     
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    Very true. Poor Boris did not even get PM out of it. He is not going to stand. It may not even be legal. May be shown to be against the interests of the UK and for the interests of a Political party, hence corrupt.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/30/politics-brexit-unlawful-eu-uk
     
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    It is the right of England as long as she wants no access to the single market. Jeanette this was a crazy game led by members of the Conservative Party to stop UKIP getting its seats at the last general election. They never expected to win. Their worst nightmare has happened.
     
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    I think that it is really funny that he said "having consulted my colleagues I found out that they all think that I am an idiot and will laugh at me even thinking that I could be pm so I have decide that it wont be me". Just heard that on tv ;)
     
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    Laugh? I think you see what you want... He is not laughing...
     
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    if the EU wants to only allow access to the EU's free market if they also accept free movement, that is THEIR right.
     
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    It may be their right, but they won't want to start a trade war where they will suffer more than the UK.
    They can allow the UK to control immigration and allow trade to continue.
    Win-Win.
     
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    A polish nazi... Is there anything more ironic than that?:roflol:
    No, you don't understand.. Other countries don't have full access to the EU market like EU members have.. They face tariffs and such things.. Britain trades a lot with the EU, and financial services are especially important. If the UK isn't part of the common market, it will take a huge hit, and banks and such will most likely to move to frankfurt. City of London will be devestated. The biggest reason london is doing so well is that they have access to the EU market from there.. but if the UK leaves.. the banks leave with it, and london will no longer be the financial capital of the world. Even the brexiteers acknowledge the importance of trade with the EU, but they somehow thought they could gain access to it without paying a price. they're wrong. If the UK were to trade with the EU on the same terms as e.g. the USA or china trades with the EU.. That would be disaster for the UK.
     
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    The problem is that the eu may not be able to survive without the UK. This could cause major changes to the politics of the European countries, especially in the resurgence of far right parties working towards the break up of the eu. If the eu does survive, then I agree that would be a disaster to the UK , and it would serve us right for abandoning the eu..
     
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    it is very confusing
     
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    well... things aren't looking that good for the Eu atm... The EU needs to reform itself, to allow countries to integrate at different speeds, and to opt out of things they really don't like. I hope that brexit, and the looming danger of populism, will be enough to get the EU to reform. If it doesn't.. the EU might not survive. I'm positive for now though.
     
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    "Free market" - meaningless. Just a slogan, nothing else. In the end, money people care about money, not globalism's one-worldish. Money will always win in the end, not ideology.

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    Many Poles in Poland involved in tracking down and killing Jews.
     
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    the USA is how many thousands of miles away from Europe?
     

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