UK must accept free movement says EU

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  1. lunecat

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    Lets hope that the Politicians don't stab us in the back. The 17.4 million majority should be obeyed. The Bexit, article 50 exacted soon. I would do it to-day, but those WestMinster elite are dragging their feet, hopefuly soon.

    Stock markets are HIGHER than before the BREXIT vote result. The pound has been in decline since Jan 2015, down a 'massive' 12cents on the dollar since BREXIT. That too will recover.

    As for the OP my comments still stand despite your diversionary comments. The EU has more to loose than the UK does in trade talks.

    The German car manufacturers will tell the EU commission what to do & not the media sluts passing comment that the pro-Globalist prostitutes jump on their band-wagon like to quote!

    Without UK exports German car manufacturers will have a massive hole to fill & your German slave masters won't allow that.
     
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    It's in their best interest.
     
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    The EU is going to let Britian walk out then give us terms to pick and choose which bits of trade and rights we prefer at better rates than we pay now?
    Can I interest you in this barely used bridge?
     
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    They're separate strands of culture. Christianity in name only has of course been abused by nonbelievers, as is everything good.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You could see the fear everywhere, that being free from a bureaucracy in Brussels was a dangerous and scary thing. It's a wonderful thing that the Stockholm Syndrome, so far, remains in Stockholm.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bureaucrats in Brussels have more to worry about than the UK. It's a big world out there and if the EU wants tariffs and protectionism they will be the ones who will suffer the most.
    Was this addressed to me??
     
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    I think Cameron should have invoked it. I also think that the reason he didn't was to 'mark time' and provide a chance, however slim, for something to go wrong which will either keep us as a member, or compromise our situation where a subterfuge can be contrived which will serve as an excuse to apply for full membership (including adopting the common currency), all the while hoping for the much-publicised economic shock (to use the ridiculously exaggerated expression for 'a temporary downturn') can then be given as the reason. We need to watch them because they're determined to keep this thing on the rails.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting article about Westminster democracy and Brexit

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/01/brexit-britain-elites-run-amok
     
  9. truth and justice

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    It was the leave campaigners who have said that they are not ready to start article 50. The leave campaign have also said that Cameron was cowardly in announcing his resignation, with them also saying that Cameron should have had a plan to carry out if the result was an out.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I heard someone say on tv the other day, when Scotland went for Independence the Government produced a 600 page White Paper suggesting how it could be. The leave Campaign produced nothing - but the Tory elite will I am sure get what they want.
     
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    Stop pissing around and we'll show you how to build your own.

    france-bridge-2_1935465i.jpg
     
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    He did.
    He planned to quit.
     
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    The main instigators of the leave campaign run away
     
  14. lunecat

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    Hi cerberus

    good post, please sign the petition asking for article 50 to be declaired now.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
     
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    But this was the issue in the US when the big 3 automakers were complaining about the Japanese cars flooding the market, so the US imposed import duties. The answer from the Japanese automakers was to set up factories in the US so the cars were officially domestically produced and not imported.
     
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    One of the reasons Nissan set up the manufacturing site in Sunderland was the tariff free export into mainland Europe, its bigger market. Countries like Poland can produce these cars much cheaper and wont have to worry about tariffs.
     
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    We are 10% cheaper this week than we were last week.

    Is your glass half full or half empty?
     
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    Depends on what you are selling. Practically all our raw materials are imported, We import much more than we export, hence inflation is expected unless the pound recovers. There is talk of another QE (which I think is too reactionary) which will be another inflationary consideration.
     
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    Hopefully they will leave it and give them the middle finger. Britain never was European anyways. If they(most of the Europeans) had founded this nation, her immigrants, we would be south America instead of what we became prior to open borders free trade globalization,, the biggest scheme in history to send the income to the top. This is a struggle between western elites and working people, an age old struggle that gains for the working people, and then they lose it and have to fight to get it back.
     
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    The UK can just do what every single other country in the world that isn't a member of the EU does. China, Japan and the rest of Asia along with the US Canada, Latin America.......basically the whole ****** world manage to trade with each other and the EU just fine despite not being members of it.

    The country that GB exports the most to is the US, meanwhile the country that it imports (or used to if the EU decides to throw a hissy fit) is Germany. It would take a day to hammer out a deal between the UK and the US to import more goods from the US to make up for Germany. In other words, Germany loses out on exports and the UK doesn't suffer anything. There is no downside to leaving the EU other than maybe doing some more paperwork when travelling through Europe.........whoopity freaking do. Millions of people from outside the EU visit them every year and manage just fine. If it is a paperwork nightmare that is an EU problem not a UK one. The EU is the worst performing regional market other than maybe Africa in the entire world. Even the Latin American markets are growing faster than the EU.
     
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    No middle fingers please. No drama queen moments. Just thank you, apologies and duck away from the spotlight.
    Mr Bean routines all the way out of the palace door.


    All our domestic raw materials just got 10% cheaper.
    Is your glass half full or half empty?

    This is the way we stop importing more than we export. Monetary devaluation and trade tariffs.

    The inflation effects will be mitigated by a change of habits.
    Instead of buying a French wine for £10 you buy a crate of Stella made in Northampton for the same.
    No inflation but cheaper British goods advantaged. Kind of like how Americans all buy American. Make an effort to keep the money in the family so to speak. Buy local. Please the green in you, lol.

    I can't tell you what is going to happen with prices into the future. Prophecies are just that.
    This strictly a confidence moment. My glass is half full. How is yours doing?
     
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    It's a bigger world out there for the UK than for the EU.
    And it's the EU who got the trade deals with the rest of the world.
    When the UK leaves, it's their bureaucrats who have to forge everything on their own with everybody.
    So it's them British who are worried with that bulk of paper work to make,
    while it looks like the banks will leave London massively.
     
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    RBS and Lloyds touch wood,
     
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    I think the EU is trying to make its position clear

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ingle-market-access-no-free-movement-citizens
     

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