Understanding the J6th committee.

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  1. garyd

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    Because given the the current condition of the Democratic party a loss for trump is an obvious loss for the American peolle without regard to race creed or color.
     
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    ""The committee is tasked with uncovering the causes of the riot."" and who wrote up those "tasks"?

    If that was the case they would have Pelosi under subpoena and testifying what happened to the security she overlooks... the paperwork that Trump signed that Pelosi and the mayor did not sign for the guards.... Pelosi's communication before, during, and after, the 14,000 hours of Capitol security video... what Pelosi knew before Jan. 6... were there undercover FBI participating that day... Ray Epps, who's he? Ask the committee if they have any exculpatory evidence they are covering up...
     
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    But nothing the politicians did is illegal.
     
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    That’s debatable, but even assuming you’re correct, the push to overturn the election is clearly within the committee’s remit. It’s not a legal proceeding, it’s a fact-finding mission.
     
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    So is inadequate security.... in fact it fits their duties a lot more than looking for crimes on Trump...can you fill us in on what the committee is investigating in that "fact-finding mission"
     
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    It's an excuse to hunt proe who disagree with the current riuling regime.
     
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    So do you agree the political attempts to overturn the election are within the committee's remit?
     
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    No because there was no illegality.
     
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    Both Jordan and the other guy were involved in the plot to reject EC votes, which the committee is investigating. There was a clear conflict of interest.
     
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    1) That remains to be seen. At least one state has a criminal investigation into this plot and the DOJ is investigating as well.
    2) It doesn't matter. If everything they did was legal, then Congress still has a role in investigating the extent and details of these efforts to determine whether or not any laws need to be changed . . . that's the whole point.
     
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    The whole thing is a clear conflict of interest.
     
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    Again, that remains to be seen. Catch up.
     
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    Here's the bill establishing the committee: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/503/text

    Section 3 (Purposes) begins with the following: "To investigate and report upon the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the January 6, 2021, domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex". Nothing about only investigating illegality. Feel free to show me in the text where investigation is limited to illegality.
     
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    We get it, you think that it should be illegal for anyone to investigate Trump for anything.
     
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    No I think investigation save for a current sitting president ought to be done by an investigative body not a legislative one especially a politically motivated one
     
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    So now you think that our lawmakers have no interest in election law? Why?

    I know you won't answer any of the following, but at least try thinking about it:

    If Al Gore had shown up for the EC count and said, "You know, there were a lot of questions about Florida, so Florida's votes don't count. I have the majority of the remaining EC votes, so I've won the election," would you have been okay with that?

    Do you support Harris having the "right" to toss out any states she wants or to replace official EC votes with fake "alternative" EC votes? Be honest.
     
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    ""Again, that remains to be seen""
    With this committee it will never be seen as it will be covered up.. Let's see all the 1000 interviews, documents, and exculpatory witnesses..
    Electoral Count Act 1887.. educate yourself and ""Catch up.""
     
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    Bogus election laws are passed by the legislative body they are enforced by the enforce branch which in the case of everyone but a sitting president is the relevant federal agencies created by the legislature for that task.
     
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    Unlike every Trump supporter other than Eastman (who admitted his efforts would violate the Act), I've actually read it. So far I've found no legitimate evidence of mass fraud. Neither has anyone else. Neither has any judge. You should actually read the Act, otherwise you'd know that NONE of the "alternate electors" were legal.
     
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    You do realize that the legislative branch is the one who creates the laws, right? So what do you mean about "bogus laws"? Why do you think the Electoral Count Act is bogus?
     
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    Over 800 of the Trump goons who assaulted vastly-outnumbered police attempting to defend democracy were identified, apprehended, prosecuted, and their convictions and confessions persist, this despite baseless claims by Trump lickspittles that the Trump goons were Q-anon, FBI agents, or just typical tourists.

    The Trump goons failed to prevent the formal recognition of Trump's defeat when they botched their stated intent of hanging the Vice President, as the Loser also attempted to subvert democracy by fake claims of voting fraud, the imposture of phony electors, and the violation of states' rights in the form of the Trump regime seizing their voting machines.

    The revelations of so many Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders of integrity who have testified under oath before the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol have been meticulous, probative, and devastating.

    The exposé continue on Tuesday at 1:00 pm eastern time, when clips of Pasquale Cipollone will be featured among other reputable Republican witnesses.

    As a challenge to all that has been exposed, I suggest that Trump himself, whining that he had a "Landslide!" inexplicably stolen by dastards still unknown, with "Team Crazy" (as legitimate Trump regime lawyers referred to his temptors) backing him up as a Greek chorus - Rudy Giuliani, Sydney Powell, John Eastman, Michael Flynn, Patrick Bryne, and Emily Newman, with a guest cameo by Pillow Boy himself - present an infomercial following the hearing, expatiating on their alternate reality. (Bamboo ballot confetti dropped from a passing Italian satellite could add immeasurably to the gala.)

    A fitting venue would be Rudy's seat of power, the parking lot in Philadelphia outside a porn shop.

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