US changes how it categorizes people by race and ethnicity. It's the first revision in 27 years

Well this is dumb.

US changes how it categorizes people by race and ethnicity. It's the first revision in 27 years


ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — For the first time in 27 years, the U.S. government is changing how it categorizes people by race and ethnicity, an effort that federal officials believe will more accurately count residents who identify as Hispanic and of Middle Eastern and North African heritage.

The revisions to the minimum categories on race and ethnicity, announced Thursday by the Office of Management and Budget, are the latest effort to label and define the people of the United States. This evolving process often reflects changes in social attitudes and immigration, as well as a wish for people in an increasingly diverse society to see themselves in the numbers produced by the federal government.

Under the revisions, questions about race and ethnicity that previously were asked separately on forms will be combined into a single question. That will give respondents the option to pick multiple categories at the same time, such as “Black,” “American Indian” and “Hispanic.”

So in essence, the Federal Government has created two brand new races, MENA, and Hispanic. Truly amazing. Needless to say, this is going in exactly the wrong direction.

 

Finally, the Census Bureau caught up with modern science. There was a backlash against the Caucasian category to incorporate all European, Middle Eastern and North African peoples.

 

I don't think there is a middle eastern race, only middle eastern activist groups.

 

Principal component analysis. (a) PCA and (b) model-based clustering using NGSadmix (K=3) of Driffield Terrace, Iron-Age and Anglo-Saxon samples merged with European, West Asian, Middle Eastern and North African populations21. Population key: Ad, Adygei; Ar, Armenian; Ba, Basque; Bed, Bedouin; Be, Belorussian; Bu, Bulgarian; Ch, Chuvash; Cy, Cypriot; Dr, Druze; Ea, East Sicilian; Eg, Egyptian; En, English; Fi, Finnish; Fr, French; Ge, Georgian; GA, Germany/Austria; Gr, Greek; Hu, Hungarian; Ira, Iranian; Ir, Ireland; Jo, Jordanian; Le, Lezgin; Li, Lithuanian; Mo, Moroccan; Moz, Mozabite; Nit, North Italian; Nor, Norwegian; Or, Orcadian; Pa, Palestinian; Po, Polish; Ro, Romanian; Ru, Russian; Sa, Sardinian; Sau, Saudi; Sc, Scottish; So, South Italian; Sp, Spanish; Sy, Syrian; Tun, Tunisian; Tk, Turkish; Tu, Tuscan; UAE, United Arab Emirates; We, Welsh; WS, West Sicilian; Ye, Yemeni.

In genetics, there are Middle Eastern and North African clusters, which are separated from European clusters.

 

So there are three European races then?

heh!

 

Actually Hispanic was introduced in 1997. Nothing new or amazing about it, but it seems it is more clear now.

Arabs were considered Caucasian, and now they are categorized more accurately. The horror!

As foe Hispanics, the below has been the problem:

"Research has shown that large numbers of Hispanic people aren't sure how to answer the race question when that question is asked separately because they understand race and ethnicity to be similar and they often pick “some other race" or do not answer the question."

 

Hispanics were listed as an ethnicity, not a race. Now they are a race. Congratulations?

As for Middle East folks what race are they?

 

It's under "ethnicity and race", so they can identify as Hispanics as opposed to wondering about it. Isn't that how people see it anyway, - as a race. They are supposedly the ones replacing the white people, which can only mean they are not considered white. What race do you think they should identify as?

Your own headline says: " For the first time in 27 years, the U.S. government is changing how it categorizes people by race and ethnicity"

It sounds like you oppose this. Why? Would you prefer hispanics answer "white"?

They will answer "Middle Easterner" that's their answer to "ethnicity and race" question

 

I think "race" should somehow correlate to something that actually resembles race, and ethnicity should correlate to something that resembles ethnicity. I didn't think that was a particularly controversial or difficult concept, but based on your comments, I guess it is.

I've long since held the position that there really is no such thing as "Hispanic." That was something that was created in the 1970's again, based on activist pressure. So as far as how I think "Hispanics" should identify, if you are talking about their "race" then it should be their race, white, black, mestizo, or asian. If you are asking their ethnicity, then probably their ethnicity, either Guatemalan, Spanish, or Puerto Rican.

It doesn't make sense for me to create brand new races for the census based on activist pressure.

 

Its not controversial to me, but obviously it is to you, since you opened the thread to complain about it.

 

Can I pick all the categories?

 

As for "activist pressure", - if such thing had something to do with it, it must have been coming from the populist circles who insist on separating Latinos from 'real whites', because their greatest concern is to see 'real whites' as a minority in US. Of course if Hispanics is not a race, and most Hispanics identify as white, then whites will always be the majority, - even more than ever.

 

Uh...because the census changes do the opposite.

 

I would be curious if you find any articles about "populist circles" trying to "separating Latinos from 'real whites', because their greatest concern is to see 'real whites' as a minority in US."

I've not heard of any but it appears you have?

 

I suppose it depends on what your goals are. If your goal is to further erode the social cohesion, isolating folks like this makes a lot of sense. When you're able to define fractures that make cohesion then impossible, it creates the foundation for replacing culture with governmental dictates. The obvious answer here as to why is because the marxists who pretend to be democrats need more fear and division to try to cling to their power.

 

OK, after reading through some of these posts, I am officially confused! Time for me to read the entire article.

 

Articles? If you have not heard people moan about whites becoming the minority, or the 'replacement' theory' then that's on you.

I'm cool with counting Hispanics as white. If that's what you want, why don't you just say so. Many people you the alt-right cirlces will not agree with you, but I don't have a dog in the race, I'm just saying no one is as happy about this thing as they are

 

The MENA category has been wanted for a while. They come over here expecting minority SBA loans and discover they are just regular white guys. Very disappointing.

 

I actually appreciate that. So many pages of posts are simply wasted because people jump in thinking they know the topic and only later discover they don't.

 

Wow, this topic was not about either replacement theory or the alt-right. I wonder if you actually read the article...

 

Sorry if you are having trouble following the points. No worries, because I'm sure others get it, and maybe someone will even address them even if you won't.

Um, this is the 1st page, and you don't seem too interested in discussing the topic

 

Why don't you tell what point I made in this thread about either replacement theory or the alt right?

 

You? I brought up those points, not you. You have not brought up anything. Why are you trolling your own thread?

I do not expect you to address any posts, but maybe someone else will. Take a break.

They want to separate Hispanics into their own group, which is what Alt-Right replacement theorists want. It supports their narrative about whites becoming the minority.

 

Please specify where in this thread I brought them up. It seems to me that YOU were the one who brought them up. But you're saying no, I did?

 

Are you drunk?

I just said "I brought up those points, not you. You have not brought up anything. Why are you trolling your own thread?"