US, France, Britain launch strikes on Syria

Perhaps....but I am comfortable with my position....and I do not yearn for a government that delivers this so-called "practical, working results" as there is little historical evidence for such success as it relates to the topic at hand!

 

It's Wednesday afternoon....and still not a peep of a response from Putin over the US and the allies spanking Assad. Now I know that Medvedev has had plenty of opportunity to change Putin's wet underpants so there's no excuse making the world wait five day for a counter attack. What gives....where is the usually chatty Putinocchio?

 

Did you expect a nuclear attack from Russia or what? If so, you will be disapponted- Putin is not stupid to do that. As for the official statements about US behavour, they have been done.

 

Ohh OK...the way big-mouth Putin was sounding, I thought that maybe he was going to actually act on his bravado instead of pissin' himself!

 

El Kabosh, I think you should go back to work If your employer knows that you sit all the time in this forum, they will fire you... Unless of course, you are an american troll getting money to post here

 

Thanks for your concern Vis....but my working days are behind me....I'm a man of leisure...happily exposing the bad guys when I have the opportunity!

 

You mean you are retired?!

 

LOL....well, that's kinda what "my working days are behind me" mean....!

 

You missed my point about the effect of economic collapse and security threats destroying the morality of any government (and btw stagnant middle class wages in the first world are the reason for the present chaotic partisanship and gridlock in mainstream politics in western nations).

I have heard non-biased commentary explaining Russian alarm at pro-western interference in Ukraine, justifiable alarm given the new reality (since the collapse of the USSR) of an anti Russian NATO on its doorstep, and Russian desire to maintain full access to Crimea (where 80% of the population voted for union with Russia); in Syria, Russia no doubt fears replacement of Assad with a pro-western government that would deny Russia access to a Mediterranean port. Then you've got Iran and Israel, and the contest between Saudi Arabia and Iran lurking in the background.

The US (with Russian support) has already achieved its legitimate aims in Syria (defeat of ISIS); until recently Trump himself preferred good relations with Russia, but events at home seem to have forced him to 'play to the home crowd' (even so Trump seems to want to withdraw US forces).

All very sad and very ugly.

There are five people in the world who need to agree on the desirability of abolishing the UNSC veto......your libertarianism is fundamentally flawed, because absolute freedom is impossible in a world with more than one person.

 

I'm not arguing for any 'absolute' freedom....that would nearly be anarchy. And...while it's true that the US, UK, Russia, China & France would all have to agree on such a change as abolishing the UNSC, I don't think that would be possible....although I think the next best thing would be instituting some sort of majority rule.....still, it would be difficult to find agreement on that as well!

 

[The abolishing the UNSC veto commentary was from me, not 'vis'] .

Majority rule - to decide issues of international dispute - is exactly what abolishing the UNSC veto would achieve. Yes difficult to achieve but, given reasonable and sane people (eg including Putin, for whose sanity I have spent some time mounting the case, in a recent post) not impossible.

But your libertarian anti-government stance (and I didn't mind the diversion into US politics, healthcare, alleged socialist tendencies in the US etc, etc, because these things are all ultimately related to why we are fighting in Syria) predisposes you to wanting to get rid of the UN, without thinking through the consequences.

 

Yeah..I know it was you....but I don't know how in the hell Vis' name ended up in the quote box....!

 

My desire to rid ourselves of the UN is a bit more complicated than simply it's massive inefficiency...but that's for another time.
Perhaps instead you tell me something.....like what you think the consequences are should we part ways with the UN!

 

According to the Pentagon, only 2 of the 40 anti aircraft shots from the Syrian defence system (which Russia incredibly says shot down 71 US missiles) were fired before the attack ended (within 2 minutes after it began), and both of those Syrian shots missed.

 

The Russians are full of shitt....they are accomplished liars, and known for their heavy propaganda....they are not to be believed!

 

Out of 26 Major Editorials on Trump’s Syria Strikes, Zero Opposed
The most influential paper in the country, the New York Times, has not opposed a single US war—from the Persian Gulf to Bosnia, to Kosovo to Iraq to Libya to the forever war on ISIS—in the past 30 years.



https://www.commondreams.org/views/...-editorials-trumps-syria-strikes-zero-opposed


No surprise that the right wing media applauds this imperialistic crime.

While most of the world awaits any proof that Assad gassed his own people (especially non-combatants who posed no threat to his government) far too many deluded news media promote war as it will lead to profits for them and their puppet string masters.

 

Because I am a troll and a hacker

 

Elijah Magnier, chief reporter for the Kuwaiti Al Rai newspaper, reports on the background to the US,UK and French attack. The original plan was to decapitate the Syrian military, he says and could've led to all out war. In response, planned counterattacks by Iran and Hezbollah would've set aflame the Middle East and further afield. Quite a scary scenario, in fact, and one apparently that forced the 3 powers not only to pause but to go for a token strike only.

 

And all contrived on a lie, from the Skripal crap to the phoney chemical attack in Douha. WTF is happening to us?

 

Consequences of abolishing the UN?

Notionally and most significantly, a massive backward step in the painful process, from 13th century signing of Magna Carta through 18th century American and French Constitutions to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights signed at the dawn of the atomic age, representing the establishment (and first steps toward extension to the international sphere) of rule of law.

Practically, much valuable behind the scenes activities relating to aiding cultural awareness, plus essential coordination of information, statistics etc re health, economic development, etc. of local populations as they relate to the world as a whole.
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I'm aware that many Libertarians regard taxation (to fund government at any level, including the UN) as 'theft'..... and following the collapse of Communism and the unfettered triumph of neoliberal competitive free trade policies (despised by increasing numbers of people around the world), we are in effect all forced to compete with one another for our own 'share' of the world's resources, measured by our success in gaining/earning/stealing 'money', so it's not surprising Libertarians might take that view.

However, given the rapid development of AI and IT, the time is rapidly approaching when 'money' will no longer be regarded as THE measure of wealth, but only a method of enabling orderly exchange of goods and services; eg, imagine that machines produce most vital goods and services - in that case real wealth will be measured by the productive and creative activities in which societies engage their citizens, rather than, as at present, by each citizen's relative success (or failure) in amassing 'money' in a neoliberal competition, in which much so called 'work' (employment) involves production and consumption of unnecessary or worse unhealthy goods or services, while much socially useful activity goes begging for lack of funding.

Required is the level of international co-operation to allow funding of nations' public sectors other than by taxation of the private sector, by means of global oversight/public-sector management of the resources that the private sector does not require or does not efficiently/sustainably utilise; in fact there are sufficient resources to educate and employ everyone on the planet, at above poverty level in useful activity, alongside an untaxed private sector (and btw population growth rates fall as poverty is reduced and women become educated, because responsible child bearing costs 'money', a price signal that is lacking in an environment of absolute poverty).

So have I convinced you let go of your anti-Putin anti-UN crusade?

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OK.....once again....I need to stop you right there....I did not advocate for abolishing the UN....never did. I asked specifically about any consequences should the United States leave that organization....not how the world would respond without it!

 

One of many "opinion" pieces.....this one by the famed international reporter Elijah Magnier. We must ask ourselves how Mr. Magnier was able to arrive at his conclusions without having been actually in allied headquarters when the conversations took place. First hand knowledge in one thing but supposition can be found covering the ground like moss in a rain forest!

 

Well....you're a troll, that's obvious.....but I suspect that the bragging about being a hacker was an attempt at humor!

 

And yet another one....burping-up one of their favorite Left-wing talking points "imperialistic crime". LOL....unbelievable!

 

American Trolls can be easily spotted as their trolling themes always remain the same.....unending praise and defense of US, the US regime and its allies, while simultaneously criticizing Russia, Syria and the East in the most outrageous ways possible.