Utah teacher no longer employed after TikTok about 'queer' students receives backlash

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  1. ToughTalk

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    First off, I don't give two shits about how you feel oppressed. You have a mental disorder that comes with high emotional instability and suicide rate.

    Secondly you never answered my question regarding what you say if a student asks about your braclet.

    Third. The reason why women wear skampy armor is because it's an easy win to sell it to boys going through puberty who have a high sex drive and would masturbate to anything with a bit of skin.
     
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    You know what my post was about and it clearly wasn’t about evangelical individuals. Maybe you can point out how you came to that conclusion
     
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    That’s the truth… My state most definitely harbors some creeps. I’m glad to see them cracking down on polygamy
     
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    Fair enough, but uh. Do you not realize when a mommy and daddy love each other very much they can make a kid?

    I hate to say it but I’m the wise words of my Literature teacher “everything is about sex”. Seriously it’s kinda everywhere.

    I am a woman biologically speaking. Because biology supports trans people. Not bigotry.
     
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    Straight people are NOT 'fetishizing' you. The concept is a nonsense, since sexual interest would mean the person is NOT straight - obviously.

    If you can't figure out what that means .. think of it this way: I'm a straight female, and find the idea of a transman repulsive. There is zero sexual interest .. because every fibre of my being knows it's a lesbian in dress-ups. Every straight male I've discussed this with has the same feelings in relation to transwomen.

    The reality is that very few of the mainstream are ever going to sexually accept transpeople. I think that bugs the crap out of the trans community .. who for some unknown reason, thought they were entitled to the straight mainstream. They're not. They have their 'community', and that's the only place they're going to find conquests. Rare exceptions don't change that.
     
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    You told me you were a transwoman. What gives?
     
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    Bigotry is by definition irrational so… if your argument is rooted in being irrational then I can’t take your position seriously.

    I did.

    Yeah. Exactly the point.
     
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    Hell with it, I’ll bite. How does biology support trans people?
     
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    Cishet?

    I don't know what all these cute labels are you'd have to tell me what the hell that is for me to tell you yes they do or no they don't
     
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    the search results for “trans pornography” is highest in red states so…
     
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    Trans woman are biologically women.

    Brain structure. Trans people have brain structures closer to the brains of the gender they align with than their sex.

    Well I just read a book about teaching so take a guess first. I’ll wait.
     
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    I'm not guessing what kind of silly things you believe now.

    If a trans "woman" were to die in an unmarked grave and a forensic pathologist examine the bones do you know what the pathologist would conclude? This person was a male right down to his very bones
     
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    Yeah and that's why every time we seem to argue you end up getting your butt kicked because you never seem to learn from your mistakes. We have already been over this. We're assuming that they only have access to their bones, but not their surroundings, things they were buried with for instance. There was a case where a viking was buried with traditional male garbs, but 'bones' said she was a woman. Was this a woman, or was this a transman? Heck, we have reasons to believe one of Europe's greatest leaders, King Frederick the Great of Prussia was a gay man but in the past historians chose to ignore this, damaging the field as a whole. This kind of problem has resulted in a wakeup call for anthropology to stop assuming gay and gender nonconforming people didn't exist in the past, when we know they did.
     
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    ""There are some people in this country who think that I should not be allowed near kids because of who I am. I haven't committed any crimes, or done anything that would hurt a kid. They just think because of one part of my life I should never be allowed near kids. And so I wear this as a reminder to myself and others that I am awesome with kids, no matter that one part of my life"."

    Nowhere in this answer tells me what you say if students ask you about your bracelet.
     
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    Brain structure? That’s inconclusive. And that is also complete BS. Men can also have smaller brains is all that proves. The idea that all transgenders have same brain makeup is not conclusive. No study claims that.
     
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    You asked what I would say to the kids if they asked about the bracelet. That is what I will tell them.
     
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    I don't think you understand how science works if your argument is "men can have smaller brains".
     
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    I don’t think you understand studies if you think the evidence you speak of is conclusive. Find me one peer reviewed study that says so rather than running your flappers
     
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    "Brain activity and structure in transgender adolescents more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender, according to new research. The findings suggest that differences in brain function may occur early in development and that brain imaging may be a useful tool for earlier identification of transgenderism in young people." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm
     
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    Oh I thought you were lecturing me. Ya that's a dumb **** answer. "It's just a bracelet" is what you should say because your politics are not needed nor wanted.

    THAT is why we don't want you near kids. Thanks for proving us right.
     
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    You can't respond to it can you? See teachers can and do need to be political in a classroom. Favorite example? "Genocides are wrong and should never happen" is a political statement, to say nothing of social studies teachers indoctrinating students in civic virtues and responsibilities. The simple fact is, saying that I belong in schools is upholding the legitimacy of the school and education in general. By being with kids, playing with them, talking to them, comforting them when they're scared or confused I uphold the legitimacy of the school, by being myself. And that is a political statement I am allowed to say.
     
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    I get "my butt kicked" only in your mind....

    I usually have to measure my words to carefully or my post ends up being deleted by moderators... Imagine that.

    I believe in actual real science, things like forensic examination of skeletal remains, DNA and chromosomes.

    Actual real biology. A zebra does not change its stripes in an oak tree cannot turn into a pine tree.
     
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    To which I have already pointed out in my response to JoeKnows, biology supports trans people. The simple fact of the matter is, nobody is defined just by their body. I mean, are you defined by how many times your butt has been kicked, or are you defined by who you are as well? And people would be better off remembering that.
     
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    I believe you have confused some branch of pseudoscience with biology.

    Biology says your DNA and your chromosomes and your genitalia determine your sex and your gender and your ability to reproduce.

    Did you know in addition to determining your sex they can determine your race by skeletal remains or do you not believe in that either?
     
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    1) No, they don't. Politics has no more place in a public school than does religion. If you lack the insight to understand why it's so important to keep politics out of the classroom, ask yourself if you'd be happy to have politics you despise imposed upon kids. Since neither side has the moral high ground, you could not object in a system which allows it (via YOUR precedent).

    2) Saying "killing is wrong" is NOT political .. it's moral. And what are these 'civic virtues and responsibilities' you speak of? The responsibility to conform, cooperate, and earn your keep - so as to reduce the burden you might otherwise place on society? The need to be law-abiding, stable, and well-adjusted for the same reason?
     
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