She was probably very anxious and had fear about flying in an airplane, as some people in the population are. A hefty double dose of anxiety medication may have been the only way she thought she was going to get through that flight without a panic attack. But just imagine what her anxiety over flying must be now, after what happened to her.
Yes we are a nation of drug addicts that need drugs to get up and go to the bathroom, sleep, lose weight, keep us awake, make us happy, blah blah. If you're so feeble that you can't fly in an airplane without putting yourself into a coma perhaps you should look into another line of work, otherwise you're likely to wake up with a sore orifice.
Got to tell all those people who go to sleep on the planes that they should force themselves to stay awake. Yeah it’s their fault that a pervert molest them, after all they have no right to go to sleep on a 10 hour flight. What’s with the coma?
No, I'll tell them sleeping is fine, since any normal person is going to become instantly awake when someone starts slathering lotion on their bodies. What I will tell them though is that they are a fool if they drug themselves into a coma where they are unable to know if someone is removing the underwear and slathering them in lotion.
You know I was thinking the same thing. Mind you blaming the woman is something we see time and again in the.abortion forum
I think the woman in the story knows exactly why that's a bad idea. I don't blame her at all I would fall asleep on an 8-hour flight and expect not to get harassed. And the person at fault it's clearly Nadeem Quraishi. It's like saying it's a bad idea to leave $10,000 sitting on your doorstep that doesn't mean you're just giving it to whoever wants to steal it doesn't mean it's somebody else's if they walk up and take it but it doesn't mean it's a bad idea. As much as I would like to We Can't Stop these things from happening. There's nothing Society can do there's nothing I can do so the best thing to do it's to try not to be a victim.
I disagree first he's not blaming the woman he's saying something is a bad idea. The fact that the story exists proves it is a bad idea. Second I disagree that a short skirt would make someone vulnerable like taking powerful Pharmaceuticals. A short skirt does not incapacitate you. I wouldn't ask such a thing. I would suggest that it's probably not prudent especially if you are alone. Having good sense is not blaming anyone. I'm going to level with you on this we should live in a world where a woman can get passed out drunk naked in the worst part of town and wake up expecting never to have been molested. That ideal should be what we strive for. But we don't live in that world. I have to take precautions when I leave like locking my doors we shouldn't have to you should be able to leave my house open to the world and expect nothing is taken. I wouldn't to be blaming a person if I told them you really should lock your doors if they get robbed. It's just good sound reasonable advice.
I believe that too I think most people believe that. Women girls boys and everybody should never ever ever be raped or sexually assulted. You should be able to fall asleep and expect not to be. I absolutely agree with you about that. I should be able to leave for my car in a parking lot without fear of it getting stolen. But I don't live in that world. I absolutely agree with you here I am lucky that I don't have to worry about that or even think about it. no generally I don't. But it is absolutely not her fault if someone attacks her. This is a case of good advice at the wrong time. The statement that you probably shouldn't take strong Pharmaceuticals while on an airplane for 8 hours surrounded by strangers is a cautionary tale. Taking the events from this story and saying maybe in the future you ought not take drugs that will incapacitate you in such a setting is not blaming anyone.
You're thinking why is it a bad idea to take drugs that will leave you incapacitated and a public place such as an airplane? Read the story on the OP. That explains why it's a bad idea. I'm starting to think you and Renee aren't really reading anyone's statements but you're jumping to this conclusion that people are blaming the women by stating something that is clearly a bad idea after reading the story is truly a bad idea.
In other countries they put women into separate travel compartments. (usually on trains, but also on some local flights in the Gulf states) Amid reports of passenger groping, Air India introduces rows just for women
You know, we can always blame something rather than blame the guilty party. We can blame women, if a pervert rapes them, or a sedative they took to relax, we can call us a nation of drug addicts so to take the blame off perverts. So when I was 9 years old and helping put away the sports gear with my best friends father, the church athletics coach, it was my fault he raped me right ? Sure, I get sick just reading garbage like this, I mean just how in heck do you excuse a rape ????? Oh ok, anything goes then............... Makes me wonder about people that think like that. I suppose rape of people with mental challenges is considered O.K. too ? Or people in a comma ?
That is what makes it so bad is that you don’t even see that you are blaming the woman. Yes you were blaming the man as well but you were saying that the woman was stupid to take something to make her sleep. No she was not stupid. Calling someone stupid is blaming them
I am so sorry you had that horrific experience. Was it ever addressed? My daughter was raped at 15And we were so close but yet she couldn’t tell me for two years because she felt such shame . Thank goodness if this happens to people today they will come forward and be believed
I'm not though. Hindsight is 20/20. I'm willing to bet the victim in this crime never takes anti-anxiety meds on an airplane again. This should be viewed more as a tale of caution. no I'm not at all. She should be able to take the medicine she needs and not fear getting raped. This isn't just a crime against her it's a crime albeit much lesser against the most women now they have to think about this when they take a long flight. If I fall asleep is some pervert going to come fondle me. It's not the woman's fault. good thing I didn't call anyone stupid.
This happened in the stone age of awareness of such matters, I did not want to embarrass my best freind, knowing how it would be if everyone knew his Dad was a mollester, so I never told anyone. I felt like it was my fault too for many years after.
I don't buy that, no matter how powerful the medication was. For all that happened but not awaken, that's as near to 'unconscious' as you can get.
